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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Assuming your info is accurate, it appears that physicians and individuals tried to coerce women into getting the shot. As far as "Israel" goes, they are the ones saying to cease doing this.

    Well, after 40 years. How did that happen?

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Sadly, that's the life of the average developing world woman and birth control. Sure, some husbands want birth control, but not most.
    I guess their wives not conceiving for a couple dozen years didn't set off any alarms.

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    I guess their wives not conceiving for a couple dozen years didn't set off any alarms.
    It happens (a few years at least, in a row) and denial is a powerful tool, it excuses him (socially) as well. We don't have info regarding if the patients took the shots without break in treatment. Surely some of the 100k have children.

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    But here's the fun part, and why this kinda smells fishy...

    How can Israel counter except by calling for more careful documentation of informed consent. They can't go "the Ethiopian husbands are neanderthals!", that probably wouldn't work out for 'em. This little stunt quite, if I might say, got them by the balls.

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It happens (a few years at least, in a row) and denial is a powerful tool, it excuses him (socially) as well. We don't have info regarding if the patients took the shots without break in treatment. Surely some of the 100k have children.
    ANOTHER TIER!

    "There is no proof black Ethiopian women continued to be coerced into taking birth control even though the birth rate among them over the last 40 years was one fifth that of white Jewish women."

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    But here's the fun part, and why this kinda smells fishy...

    How can Israel counter except by calling for more careful documentation of informed consent. They can't go "the Ethiopian husbands are neanderthals!", that probably wouldn't work out for 'em. This little stunt quite, if I might say, got them by the balls.
    Really. What "stunt" is that?

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    ANOTHER TIER!

    "There is no proof black Ethiopian women continued to be coerced into taking birth control even though the birth rate among them over the last 40 years was one fifth that of white Jewish women."
    And again that isn't a tier.

    Prove that their birth rate is because of forced measures instead of informed consent. Let alone uninformed consent.

    For all you know, they may very well have been taking the BC by consent.

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    ANOTHER TIER!

    "There is no proof black Ethiopian women continued to be coerced into taking birth control even though the birth rate among them over the last 40 years was one fifth that of white Jewish women."
    Even if that stat is correct (I doubt it), and the data would need to be examined below aggregate, what evidence is there of coercion?

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Even if that stat is correct (I doubt it), and the data would need to be examined below aggregate, what evidence is there of coercion?
    Do you know where he got that stat?

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    I'm done on this thread, but let it be a lesson why no one in the US ever, ever, ever wants to go up against the Jewish Lobby.

    Next, I'll be accused of being an anti-semite for even mentioning the Jewish lobby. The first rule is you never, ever go up against them, the second is you one never, ever talk about Fight Club.

    And that's why they're so dangerous. Be warned.

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