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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You base that on 30 interviews conducted by 1 researcher, in which the women dodged/denied absolute knowledge about the birth control injection, and that Israel issued an order to make sure that patients are especially surely informed before any shots begin or continue.
    Makes me wonder if it is a cultural thing happening here.
    (?) Culturally they shouldn't be taking BC so when asked they deny it, or say they were forced, but when one-on-one with their health care provider they agree and take it. (?)

    Don't know if that is the case. Just a suppos'n.
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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Makes me wonder if it is a cultural thing happening here.
    (?) Culturally they shouldn't be taking BC so when asked they deny it, but when one-on-one with their health care provider they agree and take it. (?)

    Don't know if that is the case.
    It's common for developing world women to conceal birth control and this is a very easy way to do so. They're not just gonna own up because the researcher, recording their responses, is female. They're gonna watch their ass, from their husbands, and stfu.

    The fact that developing world women opt for birth control, despite objections from husbands and social expectations, is what's worthy of investigation here.

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I think that's a reasonable point. It's just too major and too big to go unnoticed for so long.

    But MORE IMPORTANTLY, I've explained the data, sans CT.
    Well, I've heard that argument a lot for CTs, however that ignores the fact that they may not tell because they know that they will suffer, whether it be economically, socially, or otherwise. This isn't to say that all CTs are like this or that this argument is in specific reference to the ongoing debate, but rather is speaking generally about CTs.
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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    Been wondering where you were.


    mbig and travis would agree with you if this thread was about another country


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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You base that on 30 interviews conducted by 1 researcher, in which the women dodged/denied absolute knowledge about the birth control injection, and that Israel issued an order to make sure that patients are especially surely informed before any shots begin or continue.
    You don't get it, do you. According the reports we read the State of Israel was initially giving these shots IN ETHIOPA to black women before they even got on the plane to Israel and were told unless they agreed to them they wouldn't GET ON THE PLANE.

    So again I ask, were the same shots coerced from WHITE JEWS from Europe, Russia or the US and for god's sake WTF WAS ISRAEL EVEN DOING GIVING BIRTH CONTROL SHOTS PRIOR TO ENTRY INTO ISRAEL IN THE FIRST PLACE!

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Ethiopian Women Claim Israel Gave Birth Control Shots Against Will

    Following a TV report alleging that Ethiopian Israeli women were being given contraceptive shots against their will, Israel’s Health Ministry has ordered physicians to put a stop to the practice.

    The report, broadcast Dec. 8 on the “Vacuum” investigative news program on Israeli Educational Television, alleged that Ethiopian immigrants were coerced or coaxed into receiving Depo Provera, a long-term contraceptive shot that lasts three months, both by Jewish aid officials before their immigration to Israel and by health workers once in Israel.

    In the past decade, births among Ethiopian women in Israel have fallen by nearly 50 percent, according to the report.
    Ethiopian Women Claim Israel Gave Birth Control Shots Against Will
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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It's common for developing world women to conceal birth control and this is a very easy way to do so. They're not just gonna own up because the researcher, recording their responses, is female. They're gonna watch their ass, from their husbands, and stfu.

    The fact that developing world women opt for birth control, despite objections from husbands and social expectations, is what's worthy of investigation here.
    are you mentioning Ethiopia as developing country?
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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It's common for developing world women to conceal birth control and this is a very easy way to do so. They're not just gonna own up because the researcher, recording their responses, is female. They're gonna watch their ass, from their husbands, and stfu.

    The fact that developing world women opt for birth control, despite objections from husbands and social expectations, is what's worthy of investigation here.

    ANOTHER TIER!

    Ethiopian women weren't coerced, they were afraid of getting beat up by their husbands!

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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

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    Spanky here is a book i just got done reading, you may find it interesting.
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    re: Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent [W:283,569]

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    ANOTHER TIER!

    Ethiopian women weren't coerced, they were afraid of getting beat up by their husbands!
    That isn't a tier.
    That is a possible reason put forward to explain their supposed words to a reporter.

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