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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

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    No, when the staff of the university states that they support him, they speak for themselves (Note the plural)




    It is the prosecutor who chose to not file charges because it's not a crime.





    Yeah, changing the facts is how righties "fix" things.





    because some people like facts., YMMV
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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

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    If you want to talk about Plame, then search one of the thousands of threads and educate yourself first....Then after that, reply to one of those....This thread is not about her.
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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

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    When you are ready for honest discussion come on back.
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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Dilwar is also not the subject of the thread....Are you yet ready to discuss the person that IS the thread's subject? Or just continue to deflect?
    So, you want to limit the discussion to John Kiriakou, and not include torture? OK, fair enough. I can see why, since you seem to think that the waterboarding incident was isolated and justified, you wouldn't want to expand the discussion into torture in general.

    He was wrong to name names of covert operatives, on that I think we agree. His disclosure of torture by the US military was another matter altogether.
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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    So, you want to limit the discussion to John Kiriakou, and not include torture? OK, fair enough. I can see why, since you seem to think that the waterboarding incident was isolated and justified, you wouldn't want to expand the discussion into torture in general.

    He was wrong to name names of covert operatives, on that I think we agree. His disclosure of torture by the US military was another matter altogether.
    That's just not true. j-mac wants to talk about torture. The only limit he wants to place are on facts which undermine his opinion.
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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    He was wrong to name names of covert operatives, on that I think we agree. His disclosure of torture by the US military was another matter altogether.
    But that is not all he did. The documents of his case are here:

    USA v. John Kiriakou: Selected Case Files

    IMHO, Kiriakou intentionally tried to undermine his own country in the War on Terror, and purposely did everything he could to that end. In my mind it is treason. And the reporters involved, especially the NYTimes should also be indicted, and tried as well.
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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    But that is not all he did. The documents of his case are here:

    USA v. John Kiriakou: Selected Case Files

    IMHO, Kiriakou intentionally tried to undermine his own country in the War on Terror, and purposely did everything he could to that end. In my mind it is treason. And the reporters involved, especially the NYTimes should also be indicted, and tried as well.
    If your opinion is correct, then you're right as to the treason.
    But, I'm not going to wade through all the trial and so on to see whether you're right or not.
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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    But that is not all he did. The documents of his case are here:

    USA v. John Kiriakou: Selected Case Files

    IMHO, Kiriakou intentionally tried to undermine his own country in the War on Terror, and purposely did everything he could to that end. In my mind it is treason. And the reporters involved, especially the NYTimes should also be indicted, and tried as well.
    I bolded the only part of your post that I agree with
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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I bolded the only part of your post that I agree with

    Well, it's a start....
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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

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    Well, it's a start....
    and an end
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