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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Odd, I like many liberals, have always considered leaking classified material a criminal act. Nice rant, too bad it is a crock of crap.
    Nonsense. although I don't have at my fingertips any quotes of you arguing for the righteousness of this man when he first came out, I assume that you agreed with him speaking out at the time...But I understand how easy it is to just say, 'ah, I don't agree with what he did' years after he did it, hell, people won't remember right?
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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    This guy should be in the same cell with the "perps" that finked out Valerie Plame. No question about it.
    Pretty sure there was only one person in that case. And all indications are that he did it inadvertently. Plus that whole story was so politically driven/distorted it is a bit of a struggle to know who's version can be trusted.

    Don't believe that is a good comparison here.


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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nonsense. although I don't have at my fingertips any quotes of you arguing for the righteousness of this man when he first came out, I assume that you agreed with him speaking out at the time...But I understand how easy it is to just say, 'ah, I don't agree with what he did' years after he did it, hell, people won't remember right?
    You can assume whatever you want. I will laugh at you. Do you enjoy being wrong?
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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hmmm...Now that's funny, because it was right there in the OP....

    “This is not a case of a whistleblower,” Brinkema said. “This is a case of a man who betrayed a solemn trust.”

    I even bolded it this time so you and sangha could read it clearly....

    Next!
    Don't know why you mention my name, though I notice you still haven't acknowledged that you were wrong to say that the right wasn't supporting him too

    For the record, his remarks on water boarding were "whistle blowing". However, he was not prosecuted for his remarks on water boarding. He was prosecuted for telling a reporter the name of an agent, which is *not* whistle blowing.

    BTW, Brinkema is a very liberal judge, appointed by Clinton
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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It seems to me you're both saying the same thing. Didn't he betray a solemn trust by giving out the names of the agents involved?
    No, not the same thing at all....he was trying to protect the "whistle blower" status concerning the waterboarding claim, just as the defendant did himself and was rebuffed by the judge.

    If the issue is torture, then it is more than obvious to anyone who has been paying attention that:
    1. Torture did more harm to the US than good.
    Helped find OBL.

    2. Waterboarding an Al Qaeda leader was not the extent of torture, not by any means. Does anyone remember the name "Dilawar", for example? ?
    Not even close to the same thing, but your disdain for our efforts in the GWOT are noted.
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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Talk about a crock to use Red's eloquent phrase...Plame was not a covert agent, but this thread is not about her, could we stay on topic? Or is it only that you can argue defense of this man by equivalency?
    Plame was a covert agent who worked "under cover"
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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So, a religious right spokesman, a person that in most of his views, and utterances upsets you, and the left to no end is useful in your general statement eh? Ok, I asked for one, you gave one, bravo. Now show more people relevant to the "right" in more a secular stance that have objections to this man being found guilty....Since you said there are "plenty", it should be no problem.
    Try reading. The entire institution, comprised of far more then "a person", supports him.
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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nonsense. although I don't have at my fingertips any quotes of you arguing for the righteousness of this man when he first came out, I assume that you agreed with him speaking out at the time...But I understand how easy it is to just say, 'ah, I don't agree with what he did' years after he did it, hell, people won't remember right?
    He wasn't prosecuted for anything he said when he "first came out"

    Nice try at linking his comments about waterboarding to his conviction. Too bad it failed
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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Don't know why you mention my name
    Did you not "like" the post I responded to?

    though I notice you still haven't acknowledged that you were wrong to say that the right wasn't supporting him too
    Maybe it isn't I with the comprehension problem...

    "Ok, I asked for one, you gave one, bravo."

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1061394520

    For the record, his remarks on water boarding were "whistle blowing".
    We disagree.

    However, he was not prosecuted for his remarks on water boarding.
    He should have been.

    He was prosecuted for telling a reporter the name of an agent, which is *not* whistle blowing.
    When losing resort to semantics...

    BTW, Brinkema is a very liberal judge, appointed by Clinton
    What's that have to do with the price of tea in China?
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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It seems to me you're both saying the same thing. Didn't he betray a solemn trust by giving out the names of the agents involved?

    If the issue is torture, then it is more than obvious to anyone who has been paying attention that:
    1. Torture did more harm to the US than good.
    Seems like liberals are always saying that, but I've never seen any evidence of it presented.

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