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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nah...It's clear, now you are devolving into foolishness, like so many times before when your argument falls through. So, have fun with that.
    J, when YOU argue with what has not been claimed, YOU devolve into foolishness. I do wish you could see that.

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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    J, when YOU argue with what has not been claimed, YOU devolve into foolishness. I do wish you could see that.

    And I do wish YOU could actually have an honest discussion rather than the usual claim, denial of claim, and personal ****.....ZZZZZZZZZZZZ!
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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Plenty of "good men" had tough decisions to make throughout history. I would say like all of us he is fallible.
    What you say is true, but I would say Cheney goes beyond fallible to criminal, and complicit, all the way to treasonous. Using the adjective 'good' regarding him is reserved only to his immediate family members, IMO.

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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    And I do wish YOU could actually have an honest discussion rather than the usual claim, denial of claim, and personal ****.....ZZZZZZZZZZZZ!
    I'm trying, but you must address what I actually claim. I challenge you to actually show I claimed Cheney was guilty. If you can't, you must admit I'm correct, . . . If you're honest.

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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    What you say is true, but I would say Cheney goes beyond fallible to criminal, and complicit, all the way to treasonous. Using the adjective 'good' regarding him is reserved only to his immediate family members, IMO.
    That's interesting Henry. Criminal? Treasonous? Please lay out that case.
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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That's interesting Henry. Criminal? Treasonous? Please lay out that case.
    It transcends this topic J-Mac.

    I'm of the opinion that Tricky Dick knew on some date prior to 10 September what was going to happen on 11 September. If true, that's treasonous.

    As to criminal, I suspect he knew very well that the chemicals his boys would be injecting to accomplish fracking would be very much in violation of the Clean Water Act, and poisonous to humans depending upon that water.

    Maybe I'm wrong, but probably I'm right.

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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I remember when this first hit ABC News, and liberals, just looking for the smoking gun to heap some more smear on George Bush all just loved this man, and defended him strongly, calling him a "whistle blower" instead of what he actually was, someone who aided, and abetted our enemies by his self serving release of information, including names of agents involved.

    This media whore of a man, used his new found fame to latch on to liberal outlets like HuffPo, and MSNBC as some kind of "expert", and these liberal outlets loved every minute of it....Personally I think 30 months is way too light, life would have been closer to appropriate.
    How would you distinguish between this and a whistleblower? There IS a federal whistleblower statute.

    The Whistleblower Protection Act of 1989 is a United States federal law that protects federal whistleblowers who work for the government and report agency misconduct. A federal agency violates the Whistleblower Protection Act if agency authorities take (or threaten to take) retaliatory personnel action against any employee or applicant because of disclosure of information by that employee or applicant. Whistleblowers may file complaints that they believe reasonably evidences a violation of a law, rule or regulation; gross mismanagement; gross waste of funds; an abuse of authority; or a substantial and specific danger to public health or safety.
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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    It transcends this topic J-Mac.

    I'm of the opinion that Tricky Dick knew on some date prior to 10 September what was going to happen on 11 September. If true, that's treasonous.

    As to criminal, I suspect he knew very well that the chemicals his boys would be injecting to accomplish fracking would be very much in violation of the Clean Water Act, and poisonous to humans depending upon that water.

    Maybe I'm wrong, but probably I'm right.

    And what exactly do you base these accusations on?
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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

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    And what exactly do you base these accusations on?
    Knowledge of historical events.

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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    How would you distinguish between this and a whistleblower? There IS a federal whistleblower statute.



    Whistleblower Protection Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Funny how the distinction between "whistleblower", and "outing an agent" crops up when its a member of the home team involved no?
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