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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It's working out as planned, more and more power for the executive branch. For the people of this country, it's not working out so well. Those EOs have increased dramatically for the past couple of administrations, haven't they?



    Agreed, and the voters continue to allow it to happen.





    yes, power corrupts.



    yes, it is. Both parties are corrupted by power. The goal of both parties is to get as much of it as possible. The cheerleaders of both parties can only see the corruption of the other party. Neither one has the moral high ground in any way.



    Yes, we do.

    and most of the power should lie with the individual, not the government.

    Much that we agree on here Ditto....Though to be fair we have always had many underlying agreement...Recently, I am seeing much more that separates me from strict party alliance, however, until we have either shown the flaw in today's party system, and how it can be corrected, then pragmatism must still take the lead in my voting.

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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Sound is something you'd have to be talking face to face to determine, so I think you are reading too much into what is typed...



    You start out by calling me an "arrogant prick" then try and quote the "civility a must" sub banner to DP? Irony is not lost on you friend...But you're right, it doesn't matter who you are.....
    I am Zariak, a member of this forum, calling you out for being disrespectful. Seriously, who says "I'm sorry... who are you again?" unless they are an elitist.

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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Zariak View Post
    I am Zariak, a member of this forum...
    Ok, so?

    calling you out for being disrespectful.
    Respect is earned.

    Seriously, who says "I'm sorry... who are you again?" unless they are an elitist.
    Whatever....Or maybe it is someone who is offended that some "arrogant prick" to use your words, is coming in here, baiting the discussion with personal attack, and un warranted, un asked for, and un appreciated commentary on irrelevant aspects of personal dislike of the poster rather than staying on topic, commenting on the thread...Now, anything relevant to the topic you'd like to discuss?, because I couldn't care less what your personal likes or dislikes of me are.
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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Much that we agree on here Ditto....Though to be fair we have always had many underlying agreement...Recently, I am seeing much more that separates me from strict party alliance, however, until we have either shown the flaw in today's party system, and how it can be corrected, then pragmatism must still take the lead in my voting.

    I consider myself a conservative. That doesn't mean a republican, or a Libertarian, but rather a conservative.
    I'm registered Republican, but considering changing that to Libertarian. Actually, no party really fits my philosophy very well, but the Libertarian idea of individual rights and responsibilities trumping the power of government is something I'll support.

    but, I think we'd be better off without political parties. That's quite a minority opinion, of course, as it seems like more and more are willing to pick one party or the other and cheer them on, regardless of who the candidates are or what the issues are.
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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I'm registered Republican, but considering changing that to Libertarian. Actually, no party really fits my philosophy very well, but the Libertarian idea of individual rights and responsibilities trumping the power of government is something I'll support.

    but, I think we'd be better off without political parties. That's quite a minority opinion, of course, as it seems like more and more are willing to pick one party or the other and cheer them on, regardless of who the candidates are or what the issues are.
    Party affiliations rule the roost so to speak. I don't see any time in the near future that they will not dominate the stage, considering the money, and "machine" it takes to get elected.
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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That's ridiculous. The scope of the investigation was to find out "who outed Valerie Plame". That was known within the first month of the investigation to be Richard Armitage, CoS to Colin Powell. During that investigation Powell resigned his post as SoS, and Armitage became a darling of the liberal left by frequently appearing on Olberpukes show to run down the Bush Administration on the WoT....And further the frothing hatred for the Bush administration by those on the liberal left, wanting to see openly not only the President, but anyone in that administration "frog marched" across the WH lawn was everywhere. The emotional lies, untruths, and rumor spread about that administration by news outlets like MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and the rest were disgusting, and were designed to undermine the administrations prosecution of the WoT.

    Fitzgerald, if he was doing his job correctly, should have named Armitage when he found out, and closed the investigation at that point. Any other crap that you, or anyone else wanted investigated should have been able to stand on its own merit. As a consequence, we, the taxpayer spent millions chasing rumor, and innuendo, all to slap the VP CoS with a process charge that was totally unrelated to the named reason for the investigation, because he couldn't remember the exact words he told Fitz 15 months earlier....What a joke.

    You libs are really funny. You will spare no expense when going after an administration you dislike, and no lie is out of bounds when doing such. But, put "your guy" in the seat, and its "hands off" when it comes to everything up to and including, trashing the constitution, weakening our defense, death of ambassadors, embassies attacked, etc. Weak dudes, very weak.
    To a certain extent, you're right. No matter the outcome, no matter who fell on the company sword, the President would have pardoned him.

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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That's ridiculous. The scope of the investigation was to find out "who outed Valerie Plame". That was known within the first month of the investigation to be Richard Armitage, CoS to Colin Powell. During that investigation Powell resigned his post as SoS, and Armitage became a darling of the liberal left by frequently appearing on Olberpukes show to run down the Bush Administration on the WoT....And further the frothing hatred for the Bush administration by those on the liberal left, wanting to see openly not only the President, but anyone in that administration "frog marched" across the WH lawn was everywhere. The emotional lies, untruths, and rumor spread about that administration by news outlets like MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and the rest were disgusting, and were designed to undermine the administrations prosecution of the WoT.

    Fitzgerald, if he was doing his job correctly, should have named Armitage when he found out, and closed the investigation at that point. Any other crap that you, or anyone else wanted investigated should have been able to stand on its own merit. As a consequence, we, the taxpayer spent millions chasing rumor, and innuendo, all to slap the VP CoS with a process charge that was totally unrelated to the named reason for the investigation, because he couldn't remember the exact words he told Fitz 15 months earlier....What a joke.

    You libs are really funny. You will spare no expense when going after an administration you dislike, and no lie is out of bounds when doing such. But, put "your guy" in the seat, and its "hands off" when it comes to everything up to and including, trashing the constitution, weakening our defense, death of ambassadors, embassies attacked, etc. Weak dudes, very weak.
    No, you are mistaken. If you run across a crime during the investigation, you don't just say, too bad. You continue. Armitage did not remove the possibility of a crime. Sorry.

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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    To a certain extent, you're right. No matter the outcome, no matter who fell on the company sword, the President would have pardoned him.
    Except that is NOT what happened....If you remember Bush and Cheney were at odds over this. Libby went to jail, and Bush refused to commute the sentence.
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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, you are mistaken. If you run across a crime during the investigation, you don't just say, too bad. You continue. Armitage did not remove the possibility of a crime. Sorry.
    Ok, well, let's hear what you did yesterday in minute by minute detail, and I'll take notes. Then in 15 months you come on back and I'll ask you again, however I will carefully reference my notes, and you must go by memory, and you damned well better get every detail correct or else you are charged with a crime, unrelated to what my investigation is about....Bull Joe....It was a process charge, designed to justify, and cover the fact that Fitz spent millions chasing someone whom he already knew committed the 'crime', but refused to prosecute for that crime, so if he brought that fact forward, the American people would have absolutely skewered him, and his name would have been mud, so Libby was the fall guy for a BS charge, in a BS case, brought forth by BS demo's that were playing to their whacked out base of frothing, irrational, hate filled base.
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    Re: Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is sentenced to 30 months in prison for leaks

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, well, let's hear what you did yesterday in minute by minute detail, and I'll take notes. Then in 15 months you come on back and I'll ask you again, however I will carefully reference my notes, and you must go by memory, and you damned well better get every detail correct or else you are charged with a crime, unrelated to what my investigation is about....Bull Joe....It was a process charge, designed to justify, and cover the fact that Fitz spent millions chasing someone whom he already knew committed the 'crime', but refused to prosecute for that crime, so if he brought that fact forward, the American people would have absolutely skewered him, and his name would have been mud, so Libby was the fall guy for a BS charge, in a BS case, brought forth by BS demo's that were playing to their whacked out base of frothing, irrational, hate filled base.
    Separate issue. But regardless of my minute by minute notes, I'd know if my boss asked met to out CIA personnel. You minimalize the crime because you don't really want to know.

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