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    Re: Court: Obama Appointments are UNCONSTITUTIONAL.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Obama doesn't need to cover anything up or deflect it...he just has to ignore this ruling as he has done before when court decisions didn't go his way.
    it is about the only thing you can do when a bunch of toddlers pitch a hissy. When your two year old decides to stop everything because they want to pitch a fit you don't allow them to. republicans want to act like two year olds and break the country because they cannot deal with a black president and his choices then he should deal with them in the fashion that they act and get the job done.

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    Re: Court: Obama Appointments are UNCONSTITUTIONAL.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Funny how all the supposed supporters of strict constitutionalism are backing the GOP in their blatant attempt to circumvent the constitution.

    I'm glad a president stepped up to try and end this obstructionist practice. (Which both parties engage in) I hope the appointments are upheld on appeal.
    Be that as it may, the Senate was not in recess when Obama made those appointments, because Harry Reid was holding pro-forma sessions to keep the Senate out of recess. Therefore, those appointments ARE unconstitutional. This decision is being appealed by the Obama administration, and is going to the Supreme Court on a fast track. I expect SCOTUS to uphold it. Want to put the blame on somebody? Blame Harry Reid.
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    Re: Court: Obama Appointments are UNCONSTITUTIONAL.....

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Yeah, someone has to be picked and no choice should not be an option. You seem to recognize the approval of the senate while failing to recognize the president is the one who gets to nominate. So they do not get to chose who is nominated.

    but since you do support this can you please explain to all of us how failing to approve people for necessary positions in government is good for the country. Do you think it is a great thing that necessary parts of our government go unfilled simply because the senate doesn't want to approve anyone at all. Friggen obama could nominate the christian god himself and he would still have trouble because it was Obama that suggested it. this has never been about the ability of any of these people to do a job, it is about republicans doing everything in their power to fail the country because they want to blame it on the black guy. The fact they have the power to avoid doing their job is a huge flaw in the constitution.
    To me, it's all about balance of powers and compromise...something Congress and the White House must have in order for our country to function more smoothly. Right now, Obama's getting some payback, I guess. I'm not familiar enough with his prior nominees and the various hearings on them have gone. It is not in the best interests of the President of the United States to take hard lines are every turn. And on important issues during Obama's term? That's exactly what's happened.

    Just because a particular president can't get his nominees approved is not adequate reason to amend the Constitution, in my opinion. Obama is reaping some of which he's sown. The Sotomayor confirmation is evidence enough that "the system" works.
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    Re: Court: Obama Appointments are UNCONSTITUTIONAL.....

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    it is about the only thing you can do when a bunch of toddlers pitch a hissy. When your two year old decides to stop everything because they want to pitch a fit you don't allow them to. republicans want to act like two year olds and break the country because they cannot deal with a black president and his choices then he should deal with them in the fashion that they act and get the job done.
    We have to stick with the process. Our system worked. I don't see this as the Republican's breaking the country. They are enforcing the rules. Well played.

    It seems anytime the Republican's use the rules, Liberals go out of their minds. I don't get it. This is how our system was set up. If you don't like the rules, make an amendment.
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    Re: Court: Obama Appointments are UNCONSTITUTIONAL.....

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    it is about the only thing you can do when a bunch of toddlers pitch a hissy. When your two year old decides to stop everything because they want to pitch a fit you don't allow them to. republicans want to act like two year olds and break the country because they cannot deal with a black president and his choices then he should deal with them in the fashion that they act and get the job done.
    The whole "because he's black" is crap....

    It's not because he is black it's because he is an idiot....

    If it matters Obamafool is about as black as I am Sicilian, not to mention I would vote for Allen West any day of the week.

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    Re: Court: Obama Appointments are UNCONSTITUTIONAL.....

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    like i have said in other places those who created the constitution never saw the treasonous republican party of the present day who wish to destroy the country because they do not like the black president. This is why they need a procedure that allows them the ability to approve appointments without the ability to sabotage the government. These are not bills or laws that the country can operate without, these are positions which need to be filled.
    Political opposition as treason, eh? I wasn't around here when Bush invaded Iraq, but I recall that liberals were being accused of treason for opposing the war effort. I'd love to know how you reacted to that.

    Using parliamentary procedures to block an act is as old as democracy itself. Those procedures place protections in the process to keep stupid and rash things from being done, to keep the minority from being totally steamrolled, and so on. To equate it with sabotage is silly.

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    Re: Court: Obama Appointments are UNCONSTITUTIONAL.....

    The problem is not the rules themselves, it is how the rules have been abused. How can you have a functional government when many important positions have not been filled because the candidates for these positions are not even given a hearing or a up or down vote?

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    Re: Court: Obama Appointments are UNCONSTITUTIONAL.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    To me, it's all about balance of powers and compromise...something Congress and the White House must have in order for our country to function more smoothly. Right now, Obama's getting some payback, I guess. I'm not familiar enough with his prior nominees and the various hearings on them have gone. It is not in the best interests of the President of the United States to take hard lines are every turn. And on important issues during Obama's term? That's exactly what's happened.

    Just because a particular president can't get his nominees approved is not adequate reason to amend the Constitution, in my opinion. Obama is reaping some of which he's sown. The Sotomayor confirmation is evidence enough that "the system" works.
    We have the judicial, legislative and executive branches of government. We have a House and Senate and that is the makeup of the congress... Of course we have the SCOTUS and the president.

    Of course we are taught these facts in school, however the rules go beyond that in several ways. The president is nothing, the congress (House and Senate) and veto anything, the SCOTUS can veto the president.

    The President has little to no power - he is nothing more than a spokesman - he just gets a lot of time on TV.

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    Re: Court: Obama Appointments are UNCONSTITUTIONAL.....

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    it is about the only thing you can do when a bunch of toddlers pitch a hissy. When your two year old decides to stop everything because they want to pitch a fit you don't allow them to. republicans want to act like two year olds and break the country because they cannot deal with a black president and his choices then he should deal with them in the fashion that they act and get the job done.
    I assume you are not characterizing a US Court as being a bunch of toddlers, eh? They ARE the ones who came up with this ruling, after all.
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    Re: Court: Obama Appointments are UNCONSTITUTIONAL.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I assume you are not characterizing a US Court as being a bunch of toddlers, eh? They ARE the ones who came up with this ruling, after all.
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