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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Nice " objective " sources there redress..

    Blatant side step and failure to answer the simple yes or no questions.

    Are you that scared to tell the truth ?

    Yet you are willing to accept a Washington Examiner article as fact

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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Yet you are willing to accept a Washington Examiner article as fact
    Let's look at some of the other wonderful stories(and I use the word stories intentionally) written by this guy:

    Green energy and organized crime: A match made in heaven | WashingtonExaminer.com
    Conn Carroll: Why Obama will be remembered as a failed president | WashingtonExaminer.com
    The Obama-Rubio amnesty farce | WashingtonExaminer.com

    That is just from the first couple pages. But my source gets criticized...
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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    A little more on the Las Brisas Plant.

    The plant was given an air permit in January 2011 by the TCEQ. A challenge to that permit was brought by a coalition of environmental groups, including the Sierra Club, the Environmental Defense Fund (EDF), the Corpus Christi Clean Economy Coalition, and several Texas cities. Now Judge Yelenosky has ruled in those groupsí favor, reversing the air permit.

    Why the Las Brisas Coal Plant Air Permit Was Reversed | StateImpact Texas
    People are tired of others polluting their environment.
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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Actually they still had problems with Texas. From my already supplied link:



    Your story is nothing but a CEO blaming others for his failures in true conservative fashion.
    So, you admit that government regulation stifled job creation?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Not to mention that coal power plants are geing completely destroyed by natural gas prices plummeting.

    Coal Loses Crown As King Of Power Generation

    Just a few years ago, Georgia Power generated nearly three-fourths of its electricity with coal. Last year, for the first time, natural gas edged out coal, and just this week the company announced plans to close 10 coal-fired power generators within the next few years.

    The dramatic and swift shift away from coal at Georgia Power is part of a nationwide trend: After decades in which coal was king of electricity generation, natural gas is making a bid for the title. And it's scoring big, unexpected wins in places like Georgia, where coal was especially dominant.

    Lying douche boss is a lying douche boss.
    You should at least understand the information you post before posting it. Coal still provides the cheapest $/GJ in the energy market, however states like Georgia benefit from NG because of the logisitics. There is a list of out there (about 28 pages) of energy plants that will be closing because of the latest EPA regs set to become effective by 2015.

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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, you admit that government regulation stifled job creation?
    So you do not think the free market will work and another company will fill the demand? Is it Obama and the EPAs fault this company failed?
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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    You should at least understand the information you post before posting it. Coal still provides the cheapest $/GJ in the energy market, however states like Georgia benefit from NG because of the logisitics. There is a list of out there (about 28 pages) of energy plants that will be closing because of the latest EPA regs set to become effective by 2015.
    Funny how you do not link to these things. The list: from a coal lobby.
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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Funny how you do not link to these things. The list: from a coal lobby.
    Like I stated, you should understand what you are reading. Coal is still the cheapest $/GJ in the Midwest. Many of these burners already use NG in their raw mills and coal in their kilns. When substituting alternatives like used oil or #2 the equivilent price at 16,000 btu/lb. on NG is around .48/gallon but compared to coal it is less than .30/gallon. So yes they are closer than they have ever been but they are not there yet.

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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Like I stated, you should understand what you are reading. Coal is still the cheapest $/GJ in the Midwest. Many of these burners already use NG in their raw mills and coal in their kilns. When substituting alternatives like used oil or #2 the equivilent price at 16,000 btu/lb. on NG is around .48/gallon but compared to coal it is less than .30/gallon. So yes they are closer than they have ever been but they are not there yet.
    Why does your post have jack **** to do with what I wrote?
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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Why does your post have jack **** to do with what I wrote?
    I am not here to educate you, I can tell by your responses you are clueless.

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