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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Maybe you could elaborate on the relationship.
    The reason Texas has not given their OK to the plant(note that it is Texas where they are having problems, not just the EPA) is their poor planning to handle pollutants. See, that is why we have the EPA, and why we have regulations regarding emissions. Some of us are old enough to remember when LA and other cities would get so bad from smog that some people could not even leave the house on certain days.

    The problem in this case is of course not that the hurdles are so high, but that the company was unable to get the work done to get past the hurdles. That is not Obama's fault, that is not the EPA's fault. Just because some one blames them does not make it true.
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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Holy misleading headline. A more accurate headline would be CEO blames own failure on Obama and EPA with no supporting evidence. Las Brisas project halted » Corpus Christi Caller-TimesHe had problems getting past state level standards. Good to see the Beltway Confidential continues it's fine record of lies and deception.
    That's exactly what I was thinking. I googled "Chase Power Closes Texas" and the only news outlets that came up reporting anything were conservative blogs, conservative papers, and FOX News. But yeah, yeah, I know, "that's because liberal media outlets hide everything that Obama does to destroy our good Christian country." Blah, blah, blah...

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Says your source from the Sierra Club, but not according to the man who runs the company....
    And this man, who runs a multi-billion dollar company, would never lie or stretch a truth to make himself look like a victim?
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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So what we know is your source lied in it's headline(Beltway Confidential never
    tells the truth), they had more problems that the EPA and Obama, but you refuse to do anything but look at what one person said and accept it without question because it is what you want to hear. I find that interesting.
    Did Obama as a candidate say he would put coal fired plants builders out of bussiness ?

    Has the Federal EPA standards for coal fired plants been increased to the point of draconian ? Have these new EPA standards hurt the coal industry ?

    Is this plant having problems meeting the requirments of Obamas new EPA standards ?

    These questions are yes or no questions.

    And as far as natural gas Obama made a pre-election speech in Colorado extolling the virtues of Natural Gas and then promptly closed off access to federal lands after 60 million morons re-elected him.

    I think its a bit hypocritical fpr a liberal to accuse somone of lying.

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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post


    Your story is nothing but a CEO blaming others for his failures in true conservative fashion.
    What? you didnt hear? If you are a business that is failing due to your own mishap, it is now standard procedure to blame Obama for your inability to run a business, and to get your story in printed on a right wing news blog that no one reads.

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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    More 'conservative' whine. The 'draconian' clean-coal regulations have been regulation for at least ten years, the industry has known all about it waaaay before President Obama took office.

    The problem is soft coal, it is dirty.

    The problem is Natural Gas production has skyrocketed driving the ACTUAL cost of a kilowatt down. Most competently run energy companies have already converted to NG and only their hard coal plants continue to run.

    The problem is Texas heavily invested in coal burning plants, I know, we get air quality alerts here in Oklahoma from coal burning plants in Tx.

    The CEO isn't about to stand up and say, "Even though we knew for a decade the era of soft coal power production was over, we literally bet the house on Willard winning and not having to clean up our act."

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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Did Obama as a candidate say he would put coal fired plants builders out of bussiness ?

    Has the Federal EPA standards for coal fired plants been increased to the point of draconian ? Have these new EPA standards hurt the coal industry ?

    Is this plant having problems meeting the requirments of Obamas new EPA standards ?

    These questions are yes or no questions.

    And as far as natural gas Obama made a pre-election speech in Colorado extolling the virtues of Natural Gas and then promptly closed off access to federal lands after 60 million morons re-elected him.

    I think its a bit hypocritical fpr a liberal to accuse somone of lying.
    Here, let's look at some facts:

    PolitiFact Ohio | Ohio coal industry says Obama promised to bankrupt coal-fired power plant builders

    Carey suggests that Obama is carrying out the threat he made in 2008, but the new rules from the EPA are different from the cap-and-trade proposal Obama had in 2008. Candidate Obama’s methods were to be more aggressive. In fact, the EPA has shown some flexibility, agreeing to phase in carbon restrictions on new or expanded plants based on their size. The agency also announced on the same day as Carey testified that it will delay its deadlines for businesses that must report their emissions.
    Has Obama declared a "war on coal?" - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

    The Obama administration has sought to reduce carbon emissions in an effort to combat climate change, in part through investment in clean energy alternatives like solar power. But the president has not issued rules limiting greenhouse gas emissions for power plants - a move that would likely cause him serious political headaches in Rust Belt states. His effort to pass so-called "cap-and-trade" legislation - which would reduce carbon pollution by imposing caps on emissions and allowing companies to buy and sell pollution permits - collapsed in 2010 and has been little-mentioned by the president since.

    The EPA regulations approved under Mr. Obama are designed to reduce emissions of mercury and other pollution by 90 percent by requiring plant owners to install mechanisms to control the pollution. While many newer plants were already largely in compliance with the requirements,
    So much for those draconian regulations and new standards...
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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Did Obama as a candidate say he would put coal fired plants builders out of bussiness ?

    Has the Federal EPA standards for coal fired plants been increased to the point of draconian ? Have these new EPA standards hurt the coal industry ?

    Is this plant having problems meeting the requirments of Obamas new EPA standards ?

    These questions are yes or no questions.

    And as far as natural gas Obama made a pre-election speech in Colorado extolling the virtues of Natural Gas and then promptly closed off access to federal lands after 60 million morons re-elected him.

    I think its a bit hypocritical fpr a liberal to accuse somone of lying.
    Why don't you answer these questions yourself?
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Nice " objective " sources there redress..

    Blatant side step and failure to answer the simple yes or no questions.

    Are you that scared to tell the truth ?

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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Why don't you answer these questions yourself?
    LOL...!!!

    unbelievable

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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Nice " objective " sources there redress..

    Blatant side step and failure to answer the simple yes or no questions.

    Are you that scared to tell the truth ?
    Damn nonpartisan sources...

    Come to think of it, you offered no sources at all. Makes it easy to complain about other people's sources doesn't it. Come on, source those draconian regulations that Obama implemented that caused this plant to not be able to get past even Texas's regulations.
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