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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Good grief....Start with these....

    https://www.ferc.gov/legal/maj-ord-reg.asp
    Not the EPA. Nice try though.
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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Redress is just trying to change the focus and turn this thread into ****, so addressing the actual consequences of these regulations can be avoided.
    You do not even know what the regulations are. I want to talk about the regulations that Obama and the EPA instituted, that caused this plant to shuit down. In order to do that, we need to know what they are. Since you claimed that Obama and the EPA caused this plant to die, you should be able to point out exactly what they did. Why can't you?
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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Did you notice your sources where talking about potential regulations, not current regulations? Can you tell me which ones the plant in Texas ran afoul of? Do you know that the Forbes and US news sources you presented are editorials? And last but not least, why can no one link to any actual regulations added by the EPA since Obama took office?
    Stuck record. Still. Stricter requirements on the Clean Air act. The MATS particulate rule is not "proposed". And energy companies are already trying to comply with MACTs.

    From the story in the CC caller it appears its the boiler particulate issue thats causing it. Ive given you three possible regulations and they seem to coincide with the story Grim posted. How about you quit posting quips and post like you want to do something besides attack sources, namely post about the story.

    Start by not answering questions with questions, if you know the answers to what you are asking, try posting the information instead of playing some twisted partisan mindgame to prove you are smarter than those you are being antagonostic towards. Post your information or head on out of the thread and take your rotten attitude with you.

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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You do not even know what the regulations are. I want to talk about the regulations that Obama and the EPA instituted, that caused this plant to shuit down. In order to do that, we need to know what they are. Since you claimed that Obama and the EPA caused this plant to die, you should be able to point out exactly what they did. Why can't you?
    Who said I can't? Everyone knows they exist and I'm not going to play your game of trying to distract from the issue.

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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    You can spin this all you want but the bottom line is, Obama's new non-congressionally approved EPA standards are going to cost America 10's of 1000's more jobs and raise electricity rates on nearly everyone in the country.
    Well, that is one of his campaign promises. He did tell us that energy costs would "necessarily skyrocket."
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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Who said I can't? Everyone knows they exist and I'm not going to play your game of trying to distract from the issue.
    What trying to distract from the issue. You claimed that the plant failed because of Obama and EPA regulations. You should then be able to tell us what ones. The fact that you can't reveals your lack of knowledge on the issue.
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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    What trying to distract from the issue. You claimed that the plant failed because of Obama and EPA regulations. You should then be able to tell us what ones. The fact that you can't reveals your lack of knowledge on the issue.
    Are you saying rhetoric will NOT do?


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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    What trying to distract from the issue. You claimed that the plant failed because of Obama and EPA regulations. You should then be able to tell us what ones. The fact that you can't reveals your lack of knowledge on the issue.
    A liberal playing games to avoid the issue... How strange and unusual.

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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    What trying to distract from the issue. You claimed that the plant failed because of Obama and EPA regulations. You should then be able to tell us what ones. The fact that you can't reveals your lack of knowledge on the issue.
    From the OP quote of the article:

    Chase CEO Dave Freysinger told the Corpus Christi Caller-Times.

    Freysinger made it very clear who was responsible for the projects death. “The (Las Brisas Energy Center) is a victim of EPA’s concerted effort to stifle solid-fuel energy facilities in the U.S., including EPA’s carbon-permitting requirements and EPA’s New Source Performance Standards for new power plants,” he said
    I dunno if that's true or bad, but it's a start.

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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I dunno if that's true or bad, but it's a start.
    Redress knows damned well that those regulations exist. This is just one of those subjects that doesn't work well ideologically, so playing games to avoid the reality of how those regulations will negatively effect the economy, became a more attractive strategy for Redress.

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