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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Stinkadena, Texas City and one other town right near there where you can collect your air by the pound. Probably caused by all those beaners eatin' burritos and passin' gas. Tejas is the biggest polluter in the USA and proud of it and the money wants more of it. Corpus Christi is reputed to be similar to Stinkadena, so noone would really notice a few more lumps in their air. I was just North of there a few years back (Matagorda Bay) and had a great time. That air was A-OK.
    When I visited Corpus Christi, I got the impression from the locals that nobody who could leave would ever stay. I took one look at the refineries and thought that must be a major reason why. No way would I live in a town any where near refineries.
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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    Oh but I have. It's been awhile since I've been to VV, probably 6 years, though.
    The last time I was in the area it looked like a Nat Geo special

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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    The last time I was in the area it looked like a Nat Geo special
    Why's that, Rocket?
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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    Why's that, Rocket?
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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    It's one thing to say "if these regulations are passed, we will have to shut down plants and lay people off." That could simply be a threat. An attempt to intimidate regulators into not imposing those regs... It's quite another when those regs are put into effect, and plants are actually shutting down and pink slips are issued... That is no longer a threat, but a reality.
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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    When you don't know who to believe, the person who is getting something tangible for their position should be doubted the most.

    I can believe that there are tougher EPA regulations on release of mercury. I just don't believe that it is impossible to comply with the regulations and still make money in the energy generation business.
    More plants are definitely shutting down and apart from regulations natural gas is also cheap right now.

    But looking to the future, with no hydroelectric dams being built, no nuclear energy plants being constructed, little oil exploration and a pass on a major pipeline, it seems that what's left is wind, solar and natural gas. Wind is not viable because of lack of storage and it will take years before it will be, same with solar. (Of course much of the possibility is hyped to encourage crony capitalism with government money).

    Therefore, will less genuine competition, natural gas will gradually rise. It looks now like an excellent long term investment.

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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    1. Politifact and CBS news are NOT unbiased sources, so get over that to begin with.

    2. Incoming sources.
    EPA's Insanely Ambitious Agenda If Obama Is Reelected - Forbes
    Ozone Rule:

    As reported in the New York Times last year, President Obama admitted that the “regulatory burdens and regulatory uncertainty” of tightening the ozone standard would harm jobs and the economy … but he still pointed to the fact that it will be reconsidered in 2013. EPA itself estimated that this would cost $90 billion a year, while other studies have projected that the rule could cost upwards of a trillion dollars and destroy 7.4 million jobs.

    By EPA’s own projections, it could put 650 additional counties into the category of “non-attainment,” which is the equivalent of posting a “closed for business” sign on communities. Affected counties will suffer from severe EPA-imposed restrictions on job creation and business expansion, including large numbers of plant closures.

    The Times concluded: “The full retreat on the smog standard was the first and most important environmental decision of the presidential campaign season that is now fully underway. An examination of that decision, based on interviews with lobbyists on both sides, former officials and policy makers at the upper reaches of the White House and the E.P.A., illustrates the new calculus on political and policy shifts as the White House sharpens its focus on the president’s re-election.”
    Obama's War on Coal Will Only Get Worse if He Is Re-Elected - On Energy (usnews.com)
    •New Source Performance Standards for greenhouse gas emissions from new coal-fired power plants. These regulations ban new coal-fired power plants that do not capture carbon dioxide emissions—and none can. Existing plants don't have to comply right away under the rule, but EPA fixes them with the next regulation, MATS.

    •Mercury and Air Toxics Standards (MATS). This regulation, formerly called the Utility MACT rule, mandates a reduction in mercury and other emissions from power plants. According to EPA's own optimistic assumptions, the cost of this regulation is $10 billion a year, but the benefits from reducing mercury and air toxics is only $6 million a year (and that is likely overstating the benefits). Existing plants may be treated as "new plants" if they make these changes, and then be forced to meet the carbon dioxide emissions standards of the previous rule (EPA assures that this isn't the case, however, EPA does not have a strong legal case to make that argument). The combination of the two regulations could mean no coal plants, period.
    Harsher energy regulations seen in Obama's second term | Reuters
    Energy producers braced for tighter regulation in President Barack Obama's second term, with coal companies expecting more emissions restrictions and drillers anticipating less access to federal land even as his platform promotes energy independence.

    Opponents already believe Obama has waged a "war on coal" through the administration's push for stricter regulation of greenhouse gas emissions by the Environmental Protection Agency.

    "Four more years of President Obama translates into additional pressure on the coal industry from the EPA and numerous environmental groups," energy investment bank Simmons & Co said in a note to investors on Wednesday.

    Analysts at ClearView Energy Partners in Washington expect Obama to "continue prosecuting energy policy through regulation and administrative action, with only the courts as a check on that agenda."

    Miners criticize Obama for not living up to a 2008 promise to develop clean coal technology, arguing that his policies actually preclude the construction of any new coal plants.

    Shares of U.S. coal companies plunged on Wednesday. Arch Coal and Alpha Natural Resources ended trade down more than 12 percent, while Peabody Energy closed 9.6 percent lower.

    Eric Green, senior managing partner at Penn Capital Management, which owns coal stocks, said the sell-off was "100 percent related to election results."

    Alpha Natural Resources Chief Executive Kevin Crutchfield argued that the United States, with the world's largest coal reserves, should use what it has. "We would hope the administration remains true to its campaign promise to support coal as an indispensable part of our nation's energy mix," he said.
    Its not just what regulations are on the books but how they are interpretted and enforced by the head of the EPA. They have some leeway in regulatory changes. It depends on how they will use it.

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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    1. Politifact and CBS news are NOT unbiased sources, so get over that to begin with.

    2. Incoming sources.
    EPA's Insanely Ambitious Agenda If Obama Is Reelected - Forbes


    Obama's War on Coal Will Only Get Worse if He Is Re-Elected - On Energy (usnews.com)


    Harsher energy regulations seen in Obama's second term | Reuters


    Its not just what regulations are on the books but how they are interpretted and enforced by the head of the EPA. They have some leeway in regulatory changes. It depends on how they will use it.

    Our Friend above gets his programming from the liberal media.

    More regs equal higher consumer cost, always have, always will.

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    Re: Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    1. Politifact and CBS news are NOT unbiased sources, so get over that to begin with.

    2. Incoming sources.
    EPA's Insanely Ambitious Agenda If Obama Is Reelected - Forbes


    Obama's War on Coal Will Only Get Worse if He Is Re-Elected - On Energy (usnews.com)


    Harsher energy regulations seen in Obama's second term | Reuters


    Its not just what regulations are on the books but how they are interpretted and enforced by the head of the EPA. They have some leeway in regulatory changes. It depends on how they will use it.
    Funny how no one can actually point to the regulations added, and keep having to post editorials, while complaining about biased sources...
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