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    Re: 'Enough is enough,' Feinstein says in proposing new gun ban [W:93]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Look to NYS for your answer.

    1) a suicidal nutcase commits capital murder to steal legally registered guns. He then commits 24 more cases of capital murder in a Gun Free zone using feloniously acquired weapons in violation of federal and state laws. He kills himself. Most of the deaths were inflicted with a 30 round magazine rifle

    2) a convicted felon premeditates an ambush of firefighters using a magazine that was banned in NY. Being a convicted felon, he was not legally able to own any firearm

    what does the anti gun NY governor and his party do along with the help of cowardly Republicans? THEY BAN 10 round magazines and limit honest people to 7 shots in their guns.

    I think that answers the question

    Crime control has nothing to do with gun banner's real motivation

    cuomoron proved that

    Oh I understand that but why do they continue to insist a law will stop violence? It is so frustrating.

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    Re: 'Enough is enough,' Feinstein says in proposing new gun ban [W:93]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    It is for those of us who support gun rights: when one party has so many of its heavyweights supporting either confiscation or steps that are clearly designed to facilitate confiscation, that is more than enough warning
    If you're prone to overreacting.

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    Re: 'Enough is enough,' Feinstein says in proposing new gun ban [W:93]

    Quote Originally Posted by Skunked_Ape View Post
    Oh I understand that but why do they continue to insist a law will stop violence? It is so frustrating.
    Because they are dishonest politicians. They have to convince LIVs and sheeple that their schemes are designed to make people safer and keep little kids from being slain. IN reality its designed to put pro gun groups and voters on the defensive and waste money fighting for rights we already have rather than getting rid of left wing politicians who are wrong on guns and most other issues as well



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    Re: 'Enough is enough,' Feinstein says in proposing new gun ban [W:93]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If you're prone to overreacting.
    As I noted, those who support the incremental approach to gun banning constantly claim those of us who point out the incremental approach are "overreacting"

    furthermore-Feinstein's nonsense is designed to make less extreme but still disgusting encroachments on our rights look "more reasonable

    its like a plaintiff's attorney litigating a broken leg of a desk bound worker making an opening demand for several million dollars when in reality the case might be worth 100K max. Its an attempt to drive the settlement or compromise figure higher



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    Re: 'Enough is enough,' Feinstein says in proposing new gun ban [W:93]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    As I noted, those who support the incremental approach to gun banning constantly claim those of us who point out the incremental approach are "overreacting"

    furthermore-Feinstein's nonsense is designed to make less extreme but still disgusting encroachments on our rights look "more reasonable

    its like a plaintiff's attorney litigating a broken leg of a desk bound worker making an opening demand for several million dollars when in reality the case might be worth 100K max. Its an attempt to drive the settlement or compromise figure higher
    Like I said, overreacting.

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    Re: 'Enough is enough,' Feinstein says in proposing new gun ban [W:93]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Like I said, overreacting.
    Opinion noted not shared. Since it is my right at issue, I think my opinion is the one I will go by. I also suspect that if some of her idiocy is adopted and in 10 years the Democrats go for more restrictions, I doubt you will admit I was right. It happened before. Long before I joined this board, I noted in Cincinnati, that if Sarah Brady (who came to our city to help support a waiting period that was thrown out with a preemption bill at the state level) got her waiting period she would want more. She claimed that was not true to my face and her supporters said I was "OVERREACTING"

    well the minute the brady law was passed, Sarah was out campaigning for assault weapons bans including one our city adopted (which was also thrown out but at least it tracked what the police handguns had-15 rounds)

    and when I went to the council people who said I was overreacting-rather than being honest and admitting Brady lied, they claimed "things have changed" and she changed her mind-a complete lie because the brady bill was passed less than a couple months before the AWB was being proposed.



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    Re: 'Enough is enough,' Feinstein says in proposing new gun ban [W:93]

    I note that Arne Duncan-part of the Obama Cabinet is on TV right now saying that the Feinstein Ban is a starting point-not an ending point. Tell me what that means.



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    Re: 'Enough is enough,' Feinstein says in proposing new gun ban [W:93]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Opinion noted not shared. Since it is my right at issue, I think my opinion is the one I will go by. I also suspect that if some of her idiocy is adopted and in 10 years the Democrats go for more restrictions, I doubt you will admit I was right. It happened before. Long before I joined this board, I noted in Cincinnati, that if Sarah Brady (who came to our city to help support a waiting period that was thrown out with a preemption bill at the state level) got her waiting period she would want more. She claimed that was not true to my face and her supporters said I was "OVERREACTING"

    well the minute the brady law was passed, Sarah was out campaigning for assault weapons bans including one our city adopted (which was also thrown out but at least it tracked what the police handguns had-15 rounds)

    and when I went to the council people who said I was overreacting-rather than being honest and admitting Brady lied, they claimed "things have changed" and she changed her mind-a complete lie because the brady bill was passed less than a couple months before the AWB was being proposed.
    Yes, it has been established by precedence that some limitations can be placed. Precedence has also been set that limits how much they can regulate. So, remain calm.

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    Re: 'Enough is enough,' Feinstein says in proposing new gun ban [W:93]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes, it has been established by precedence that some limitations can be placed. Precedence has also been set that limits how much they can regulate. So, remain calm.
    again opinion noted not shared. and that was really not responsive

    You claimed I was overreacting and I demonstrated that history has proven that the incrementalist gun banners never stop and continually lie or refuse to say what their end goals

    as is the case of those who support their goals



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    Re: 'Enough is enough,' Feinstein says in proposing new gun ban [W:93]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    again opinion noted not shared. and that was really not responsive

    You claimed I was overreacting and I demonstrated that history has proven that the incrementalist gun banners never stop and continually lie or refuse to say what their end goals

    as is the case of those who support their goals
    No, you have demonstrated nothing. I, however, referred to actual precedence.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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