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    Re: In malpractice case, Catholic hospital argues fetuses arenít people

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    Then you must not support the existing double-murder laws, both at the individual state and federal level, for murders of pregnant women. Correct?
    Red herring noted
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    Re: In malpractice case, Catholic hospital argues fetuses arenít people

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    Red herring noted
    So which is?

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    Re: In malpractice case, Catholic hospital argues fetuses arenít people

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    So which is?
    Which is you still have not stated a non-religious reason why the law should protect a fetus
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    Re: In malpractice case, Catholic hospital argues fetuses arenít people

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The laws is not meant to, nor has the power to, assuage your feelings of loss. That's why miscarriages are not illegal
    Now your saying that a miscarriage is the equivalent to the loss of an unborn child due to negligence or, worse yet, something nefarious.

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    Re: In malpractice case, Catholic hospital argues fetuses arenít people

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    Which is you still have not stated a non-religious reason why the law should protect a fetus
    Same non-religious reason why there are laws against murder, theft, and negligence.

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    Re: In malpractice case, Catholic hospital argues fetuses arenít people

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    Now your saying that a miscarriage is the equivalent to the loss of an unborn child due to negligence or, worse yet, something nefarious.

    Wow.
    No, now you're just dishonestly making stuff up because you can't find anything wrong with what I actually said

    And I'm still waiting for you to post a non-religious reason for why the law should protect a fetus
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    Re: In malpractice case, Catholic hospital argues fetuses arenít people

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    No, now you're just dishonestly making stuff up because you can't find anything wrong with what I actually said

    And I'm still waiting for you to post a non-religious reason for why the law should protect a fetus
    Because if harm comes to my unborn child because of the negligence or nefarious activity of another there is a need for justice.
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    Re: In malpractice case, Catholic hospital argues fetuses arenít people

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    Because if harm comes to my unborn child because of the negligence or nefarious activity of another there is a need for justice.
    No, there is no such "need". You're confusing desire with need
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    Re: In malpractice case, Catholic hospital argues fetuses arenít people

    If the hospital made the decision to save the life of the mother at the expense of the children, or could be proven to have treated the fetuses with gross negligence, then they certainly could be called to the carpet for ignoring their own dogma.

    That's not what's happening here. The question before us appears to be one of liability, not ethics or morality. Unfortunately, in our sue happy culture, even Catholic businesses have to cover their asses. If they admit liability for the fetuses, the monetary judgement would skyrocket. This hospital, rightfully, should pay a heavy price for dropping the ball and allowing a mother and her two unborn babies to die. But anti-Catholic hatred shouldn't make it a blank check.
    The morality of abortion is not a religious belief, any more than the morality of slavery, apartheid, rape, larceny, murder or arson is a religious belief. These are norms of the natural law of mankind and can be legislated even in a completely religionless society.

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    Re: In malpractice case, Catholic hospital argues fetuses arenít people

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, there is no such "need". You're confusing desire with need
    No, there is a need. Can't have people running around harming the unborn without fear of repercussion.
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