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    Re: Pentagon to overturn ban on women in military combat roles

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    For anyone who is confused or uninformed about the type of fighting that is happening in afghanistan, I would highly recommend the documentary 'Restrepo' to you. It follows one of the battalions from my brigade (the 173rd) during our 07-08 deployment.

    It will become exceptionally obvious to those that claim that warfare is all fought with technology and from vehicles, that this simply isn't the case. For the most part it's humping through the mountains, and it's brutally overwhelming combat.

    A great, great movie my brother. I have watched that movie at least 3 times, maybe 4. I was in awe of those guys sometimes. And that's saying a lot for a Marine to say he was in awe of a hooah lol.
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    Re: Pentagon to overturn ban on women in military combat roles

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    A great, great movie my brother. I have watched that movie at least 3 times, maybe 4. I was in awe of those guys sometimes. And that's saying a lot for a Marine to say he was in awe of a hooah lol.
    I was a valley over from them, where it was luckily a smidge quieter. The Korengal is the worst place on the planet. It baffles me how little people actually know about America's longest war.

    EDIT: We actually had 2 Marines integrated with us in our company. They were primarily in charge of training the ANA.
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    Re: Pentagon to overturn ban on women in military combat roles

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I was a valley over from them, where it was luckily a smidge quieter. The Korengal is the worst place on the planet. It baffles me how little people actually know about America's longest war.
    I know bro. I was in the Sangin River Valley. Hate that place.
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    Re: Pentagon to overturn ban on women in military combat roles

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    If you're slow then you will fail basic training. We're talking about standards here.

    It's basic physics that woman are slower than men.

    Why the hell do you think woman don't compete against men in sports? Hell my beer league hockey team could beat Team USA or Team Canada womans teams in a hockey game.

    The notion we're even having a discussion that woman are as physically strong and fast as men is delusional...

    Woman are better than men at some things and men are better than woman at some things - this just happens to be a case where men are superior... The notion woman are even close to men in physical strength, durability, stamina etc is downright ridiculous.

    Now, If a woman can actually keep up with the guys - great - however I don't see that happening. If a woman can do that she would be better off competing in the Olympics than trying to prove herself in combat.
    Well, I didn't. The little thing with that female trooper in the laundry was dicey, but not being able to do the inverted crawl didn't get me kicked out.

    The point was, that moving isn't that fast. My humor want really the point.

    As for women in sports, many can kick my butt. Yours too I suspect.

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    Re: Pentagon to overturn ban on women in military combat roles

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The PFT standards aren't going to be raised for female soldiers, so it's purdy much a dead issue. When troops hit the battlefield, it's too late to find out that a soldier can't handle the physical rigors of infantry life.

    However, I can see it now, the standards for the Expert Infantry Test will be lowered, because women won't be able to meet the current standards.
    Then you you be with me in actively questioning those standards. Either prove they are needed, or they are not. But if they are lowered, and women do handle combat, then it will be clear you were wrong. I would prefer a real effort to question tis before finding out.

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    Re: Pentagon to overturn ban on women in military combat roles

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    The battlefield isn't structured that way though. Patrols are sent out for the express purpose of locating the enemy and engaging them. What do people think we do over there? Ride around and wait to be shot at? That's not the case at all. I think it was said best by General Barrow, 27th Commandant of the Marine Corps. "EXPOSURE to danger is not combat. Being shot at, even being killed, is not combat. Combat is finding . . . closing with . . . and killing or capturing the enemy."
    That's only part of combat. Sometimes the enemy comes to you. And yes, when the enemy is not an army, but the working next to you, you are on the frontline.

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    Re: Pentagon to overturn ban on women in military combat roles

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That's only part of combat. Sometimes the enemy comes to you. And yes, when the enemy is not an army, but the working next to you, you are on the frontline.
    So why should we allow women to serve when they can only execute part of the duties required for combat?
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    Re: Pentagon to overturn ban on women in military combat roles

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    So why should we allow women to serve when they can only execute part of the duties required for combat?
    Don't limit them. I think you're missing what s being said. You're the one saying they are limited, not me.

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    Re: Pentagon to overturn ban on women in military combat roles

    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    pardon the ignorance, but arent women already permitted to fight in combat? After all, my best friends daughter is a gunner and has been wounded.
    From what I have read they participate in these roles but aren't officially recognized as such.

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    Re: Pentagon to overturn ban on women in military combat roles

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Well, I didn't. The little thing with that female trooper in the laundry was dicey, but not being able to do the inverted crawl didn't get me kicked out.

    The point was, that moving isn't that fast. My humor want really the point.

    As for women in sports, many can kick my butt. Yours too I suspect.
    I'm an artist, I know the shape of a woman and why they cannot keep up with a man. They have an hour glass shape, we have wide hips and our shoulders are broad... As an artist you learn the differences (not the junk) between a man and a woman.

    I know this from my art - I have asked the question already.

    The wide hips are a problem.. A good problem if you want to have children.

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