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    Re: Pentagon to overturn ban on women in military combat roles

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    The point is, you're creating a difference that isn't there. Both men and women carry Candida yeast, and both men and women get such infections for exactly the same reasons. So, what I'm questioning are your standards.
    They're not my standards, they're the Army standards. If you think I wrote standards, then you're drastically overestimating my former rank.
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    Re: Pentagon to overturn ban on women in military combat roles

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'll highlight from post 84:


    JERUSALEM -- A deadly shootout last week along Israel's border with Egypt has shined a spotlight on Israel's only mixed female and male combat unit, granting some recognition to a group that has faced much skepticism and often been the butt of jokes since its inception.

    The Caracal battalion's response to the militant attack on Friday – which left three gunmen dead, including one whom Israeli officials said was killed by a female soldier – marked a major test for the unit that typically handles tame operations. One Israeli soldier also was killed.

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    "If the Caracal force wasn't there in those critical moments, it's clear to everyone that we could have faced a difficult attack," Col. Guy Biton, the commander of the Sagi Brigade that oversees the battalion, told the Maariv daily newspaper.

    Caracal Batallion, Israel's Only Co-Ed Combat Unit, Proves Its Worth
    As I said, one minor firefight. NYPD and Chicago cops see more action than that.

    BTW, you left this out.

    After an extensive search, the female soldier who made the initial report was found hiding in a bush...

    Caracal Battalion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Pentagon to overturn ban on women in military combat roles

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'll highlight from post 84:


    JERUSALEM -- A deadly shootout last week along Israel's border with Egypt has shined a spotlight on Israel's only mixed female and male combat unit, granting some recognition to a group that has faced much skepticism and often been the butt of jokes since its inception.

    The Caracal battalion's response to the militant attack on Friday – which left three gunmen dead, including one whom Israeli officials said was killed by a female soldier – marked a major test for the unit that typically handles tame operations. One Israeli soldier also was killed.

    (snip)

    "If the Caracal force wasn't there in those critical moments, it's clear to everyone that we could have faced a difficult attack," Col. Guy Biton, the commander of the Sagi Brigade that oversees the battalion, told the Maariv daily newspaper.

    Caracal Batallion, Israel's Only Co-Ed Combat Unit, Proves Its Worth
    I wouldn't be concerned with female marksmanship - I would be more worried about their physical ability to keep up with the men on long hikes into the mountains and in the jungle (or wherever).

    Combat is a lot more than just shooting.

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    Re: Pentagon to overturn ban on women in military combat roles

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    They're not my standards, they're the Army standards. If you think I wrote standards, then you're drastically overestimating my former rank.
    I think you're caught ahold of a weak army standard designed to try and prevent women for serving. I don't believe that standard will hold up to any serious scrutiny.

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    Re: Pentagon to overturn ban on women in military combat roles

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I wouldn't be concerned with female marksmanship - I would be more worried about their physical ability to keep up with the men on long hikes into the mountains and in the jungle (or wherever).

    Combat is a lot more than just shooting.
    That's a concern even for some men. But keeping up would be a valid standard.

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    Re: Pentagon to overturn ban on women in military combat roles

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I think you're caught ahold of a weak army standard designed to try and prevent women for serving. I don't believe that standard will hold up to any serious scrutiny.
    A weak army standard? When we were in the field for training, all of the women got buss'ed back onto main base to take showers every 3 days. It's not a weak standard, it's an army wide standard that is enforced by every unit.

    If they get rid of it, then good, it's one step closer to actually making the standards equal, because right now they're anything but equal.

    PT standards are the worst of it. A woman maxing her PT test won't even pass by the male standards. It's ridiculous, and until women are ready to be equal in all aspects, I'm opposed to it.
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    Re: Pentagon to overturn ban on women in military combat roles

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    As I said, one minor firefight. NYPD and Chicago cops see more action than that.

    BTW, you left this out.
    I don't think it was in my link. Might need conformation on that one. BTW, have men even hidden?

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    Re: Pentagon to overturn ban on women in military combat roles

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    A weak army standard? When we were in the field for training, all of the women got buss'ed back onto main base to take showers every 3 days. It's not a weak standard, it's an army wide standard that is enforced by every unit.

    If they get rid of it, then good, it's one step closer to actually making the standards equal, because right now they're anything but equal.

    PT standards are the worst of it. A woman maxing her PT test won't even pass by the male standards. It's ridiculous, and until women are ready to be equal in all aspects, I'm opposed to it.
    Lord, by weak I mean the rationale it is based on and not whether they did it or not.

    And do you really believe the physical requirements are that great today? I would question some of the PT standards (not all).

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    Re: Pentagon to overturn ban on women in military combat roles

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Lord, by weak I mean the rationale it is based on and not whether they did it or not.

    And do you really believe the physical requirements are that great today? I would question some of the PT standards (not all).
    Oh Jesus YES! I spent 15 months carrying over a hundred god damn pounds on my back walking through the ****ing hindu kush. Afghanistan is NOT iraq. Most of the combat isn't in vehicles, it's humping and hating life.
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    Re: Pentagon to overturn ban on women in military combat roles

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That's a concern even for some men. But keeping up would be a valid standard.
    But woman cant keep up - it's physically impossible. The simple fact they have wider hips will slow them down. Woman are not built for extreme physical activities. Of course they can do extreme physical activities but the male will always be faster and more durable.

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