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Clinton To Face Congress on Libya Assault.....

American said:
Yes, there were plenty of Hillary groupees and bootlickers on the panel.
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Thas alright.....seeing how the left wants to play over Rand Paul and what he said to Clinton. Thinking that deflection will help them bury Benghazi over and Team Obama's complete and utter Incompetence. They must be upset that this thorn in their side hasn't gone away yet.
 
I was appalled when she said "What difference does it make?" then went on to say what needs to be done is preventing it from happening again.

If she's not interested in what actually happened, to begin with, how the hell does she plan on keeping whatever it was from happening again?
 
mac said:
I was appalled when she said "What difference does it make?" then went on to say what needs to be done is preventing it from happening again.

If she's not interested in what actually happened, to begin with, how the hell does she plan on keeping whatever it was from happening again?
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It's insane but with the MSM on her side she will probably get away with it. It was also crazy to elect BHO for a second term but that's just what happened. After that how can we expect a serious and rational response from the electorate? Stupid people have the right to vote also.

Now there are no real qualifications necessary to win the Presidency and no consequences for irresponsible and bungling behavior, even when it comes to the loss of American lives. Not enough people care anymore.
 
it would seem from the testimony that hillary has a much better understanding of the volatile nature of the area than Bush or any republican presently. She was absolutely right that any american present in those areas trying to operate american diplomatic values faces an assumed risk, and safety in an environment in turmoil where the weapons of the old government have been taken by elements hostile to america is a completely idiotic ideal that cannot possibly bve accomplished, especially when republicans are now clamming up on financial support because they don't want obama to accomplish anything. The pure selfishness of congressional republicans in their attempts to hamper anyu effort obama makes in the area by defunding and blaming him for instability created by the societies of the area and GWB has cost american lives, sapped our strength on foreign fronts, and undermined american values all because they throw a spoiled tantrum every time the black president tries something they supported when Bush was in charge.
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The safety of American citizens, especially diplomatic officials comes before diplomacy. They should have been made safe or allowed to leave the area. That was her JOB. She, and Obama, failed to do that job.
 
ModerateGOP said:
While that's all really bad. You managed to avoid telling me what exactly they covered up! Anybody who wanted to know the full story, could have easily turned on Fox News, Gone to Drudge or any right wing source and you could have heard about the four dead Americans. The left wing channels know their audience. Who would have thought?? Everybody who cared about libya got all the info they wanted.
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Its telling you couldnt turn on a left wing source and get the same info, isnt it?
 
MMC said:
WASHINGTON (AP) — Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton faces tough questions in her long-awaited congressional testimony concerning the assault on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans.

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Clinton is the sole witness Wednesday at back-to-back hearings before the Senate and House foreign policy panels on the September raid, an independent panel's review that harshly criticized the State Department and the steps the Obama administration is taking to beef up security at U.S. facilities worldwide.

Clinton's testimony will focus on the attack after more than three months of Republican charges that the Obama administration ignored signs of a deteriorating security situation in Libya and cast an act of terrorism as mere protests over an anti-Muslim video in the heat of a presidential election. Washington officials suspect that militants linked to al-Qaida carried out the attack.

State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said Tuesday that Clinton would focus on the Accountability Review Board's independent assessment of the attack and the State Department's work to implement its findings.

"Systematic failures and leadership and management deficiencies at senior levels within two bureaus of the State Department resulted in a Special Mission security posture that was inadequate for Benghazi and grossly inadequate to deal with the attack that took place," the panel said in its report last month.

The report singled out the Bureau of Diplomatic Security and the Bureau of Near East Affairs, saying there appeared to be a lack of cooperation and confusion over protection at the mission in Benghazi. The report described a security vacuum in Libya after rebel forces toppled the decades-long regime of strongman Moammar Gadhafi.....snip~

Clinton to face Congress on Libya assault - Yahoo! News
Associated Press – 4 hrs ago<<<<<More here!

Indeed.....Time for Clinton to pay the Piper, before she leaves Washington. Now is the time to bring down all that Incompetency down around Clinton's Ears. Especially since she will be Stepping down and leaving Washington for a time being. The good news is there are 3 Republicans that are now on this panel that are going to go after Hillary. Time to take the Kid Gloves off and let Clinton here some things she don't like. Such as you failed Madam Secretary. You also know what the security was like and the situation on the ground after the ousting of Gadhafi. These guys need to go after her full-tilt, get her so pist she cant see straight. Hopefully causing her to give up Obama.

As soon as they do.....watch Hill-bo cite that she cannot answer the question due to an ongoing FBI investigation. Which has produced hardly any information at all. The FBI has been dragging their azz on this issue from the get go. Might have to do with.....that they shouldn't be investigating Anything concerning Intel and on Foreign Soil in the first place. Anyone else think the FBI is woefully inadequate to when it comes to Clandestine affairs and being on a battlefield? Message to the FBI.....GTFO of the way and stay where you belong. Home.....safe, where you can't screw anything up!

Don't expect her to talk about why Stevens was out on that Street 2 hrs earlier with the Turkish Ambassador, considering the Turks had removed all Embassy personnel during the Gadhafi Clash. Also they should make that distinction over that Militia and who they think was connected to AQ over the attack. That would be the same militia that was providing security for our people and then later set up Roadblocks and were firing on our people.

One other issue they need to bring up to Clinton and Obama.....Why have they not asked for the Head of the Sunni Cleric in Egypt who Never saw the Anti Muslim Film.....But yelled Fire on All the Worlds a Stage. Clinton needs to answer that question considering she talked to Morsi. If we can lock up the guy who made the film over his probation. Then we should be able to lock up that Sunni Cleric in Egypt. If he refuses.....then we should send a hit team to put two in his hea. Thus making sure such will never happen again!
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She's proven herself to be irresponsible and a tyrant..

Hillary actually said something of the notion of: "so what why does it matter if we had enough security because it already happened."

It goes to show how delusional the progressive thought process actually is - nothing matters to them... That bitch Clinton may as well implied "so what I killed a person with my car, he was going to die 50 years from now anyways." Sad because that was their position with Ted Kennedy.

Every time they get into hot water it's always "so what."

Their narcissistic attitudes were one of the main reasons why I left the progressive party - total hypocrites.

"So what I give them cake and let them kill so I can exploit them, then blame republicans and my constituents will believe me because I give them cake."

The best part is the idiot Clinton is dumbfounded as to why she's being grilled. It's obvious how out of touch with reality she actually is.
 
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tererun said:
Weren't you guys the ones bitching because
democracy means they elect Islamic governments by choice, and that is simply unacceptable to the neocon fascism that prompted Bush to attack iraq for absolutely no other cause than to attempt to install a puppet government only he approved of? you guys have a really odd version of democracy. The bush foreign policy on democracy has been almost a complete failure wasting american lives just to see what they consider radical elements take control of countries because american republican values are non-existent and therefor won't win any votes in these countries. Democracy in countries with heavy Islamic populations will mean things like islamic leadership, less support and even danger for isreal, and the most evil of evils to neo-con fascists Sharia Law. The very idea that republicans think that the christian value system they sought to install in those countries would survive an open vote was pure folly and created by the same ignorance that linked iraq with the 9/11 attacks in the first place. however, that is what you get when you follow your own propaganda and lies and ignore the truth of the situation in the middle east.

it would seem from the testimony that hillary has a much better understanding of the volatile nature of the area than Bush or any republican presently. She was absolutely right that any american present in those areas trying to operate american diplomatic values faces an assumed risk, and safety in an environment in turmoil where the weapons of the old government have been taken by elements hostile to america is a completely idiotic ideal that cannot possibly bve accomplished, especially when republicans are now clamming up on financial support because they don't want obama to accomplish anything. The pure selfishness of congressional republicans in their attempts to hamper anyu effort obama makes in the area by defunding and blaming him for instability created by the societies of the area and GWB has cost american lives, sapped our strength on foreign fronts, and undermined american values all because they throw a spoiled tantrum every time the black president tries something they supported when Bush was in charge.

but we would not want the truth to spoil imaginary republicanland. People complain at me for watching a show about imaginary ponies, but it is often more real than the delusions created by republicans and their media to excuse their attacks on america and destabilization of our strength because they simply cannot stand Obama as president. The people who should be called to answer tough questions are the people who are asking the questions. mccain should have to answer why he has pulled a complete 180 on the wars he supported and the attempts to install american leaders he wanted to do way back when he was running for president. rand paul should answer why he is such a racist dick that he would endanger american lives to simply oppose a black president. But we would not want to actually ask republicans why they have abandoned the democracy that was so important a decade ago that we ran up trillions in debt to accomplish it, killed thousands of americans fighting for it, and completely abandoned when the other party came into power and happened to have dark skin.
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Classy, blaming it on the Ambassador who up until the day he died was voicing concern over the lack of secutity.

Terroist blow a hole in the side of the compound wall and Clinton knew nothing about his security concerns.

Dont tell me your'e that gullible.
 
Mr.Nick said:
She's proven herself to be irresponsible and a tyrant..

Hillary actually said something of the notion of: "so what why does it matter if we had enough security because it already happened."

It goes to show how delusional the progressive thought process actually is - nothing matters to them... That bitch Clinton may as well implied "so what I killed a person with my car, he was going to die 50 years from now anyways." Sad because that was their position with Ted Kennedy.

Every time they get into hot water it's always "so what."

Their narcissistic attitudes were one of the main reasons why I left the progressive party - total hypocrites.

"So what I give them cake and let them kill so I can exploit them, then blame republicans and my constituents will believe me because I give them cake."

The best part is the idiot Clinton is dumbfounded as to why she's being grilled. It's obvious how out of touch with reality she actually is.
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But just to be clear, Clinton lied and is still lying. When asked about the claim that the attack was sparked by a protest over a video, she responded, "I did not say ... that it was about the video for Libya."

Moreover, Clinton was part of an administration that crafted an entire PR strategy to blame these attacks on "an awful Internet video." White House Press Secretary Jay Carney was unequivocal: This was a "response to a video, a film we have judged to be reprehensible and disgusting." In his address to the United Nations, President Obama mentioned the video six times but al-Qaeda once. When he appeared on the "Late Show with David Letterman," he blamed the video directly. U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice went on five Sunday shows blaming the video. All of this happened when they already knew it was not true on the day of the attack, and even the president of Libya publicly called the protest explanation ridiculous.

But again, the lying, while outrageous, is incidental to the real offense, which is twofold. First, why did the administration lie? Well, it wanted to conceal its utter failure to prepare for terrorist attacks on Sept. 11 -- which is like being surprised by Christmas falling on Dec. 25. Also, the Obama administration, by which I mean the Obama campaign, was desperate to protect its hyped record of fighting terrorism. A "spontaneous" attack invited not by the administration's shortcomings but by some nutty video was just the ticket.....snip~

Hillary Clinton's Dodgy Testimony - Jonah Goldberg - Page 2


Seems not all the left wing Media can just act like they are the ones only with a thought or two.....huh?
 
It matters that the Obama administration misled the American people from the start about the attack, suggesting for weeks, most notably through UN Ambassador Susan Rice, that the attack was caused by a spontaneous protest over an American produced anti-Muslim video. After killing Osama bin Laden, the Obama administration wanted us to believe the threat of al Qaeda and Islamic radicals was diminished but the Benghazi attack blew an inconvenient hole in the President’s narrative.

The CIA confirmed numerous times to Congress, including former CIA Director David Petraeus, the agency knew immediately the Benghazi attack was planned and implemented by terrorists. But the real “difference” this all makes is that the State Department’s Accountability Review Board’s report, commissioned by Madame Hillary herself, concluded the attack on Benghazi resulted from the State Department’s gross negligence in security. Translation: “big screw up.”

This all makes a “difference” because it makes Secretary Clinton look incompetent. When she flippantly declared with a smirk during the Senate hearing that she couldn't be bothered to read the 1.4 million cables that came through to the State Department last year, including those from Ambassador Stevens, Senator Rand Paul expressed the collective disgust of America.....snip~

Hillary

Guess it just takes a couple days to start filter thru all the Deflection and garbage the left is cat calling with.....huh?
 
MMC said:
But just to be clear, Clinton lied and is still lying. When asked about the claim that the attack was sparked by a protest over a video, she responded, "I did not say ... that it was about the video for Libya."

Moreover, Clinton was part of an administration that crafted an entire PR strategy to blame these attacks on "an awful Internet video." White House Press Secretary Jay Carney was unequivocal: This was a "response to a video, a film we have judged to be reprehensible and disgusting." In his address to the United Nations, President Obama mentioned the video six times but al-Qaeda once. When he appeared on the "Late Show with David Letterman," he blamed the video directly. U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice went on five Sunday shows blaming the video. All of this happened when they already knew it was not true on the day of the attack, and even the president of Libya publicly called the protest explanation ridiculous.

But again, the lying, while outrageous, is incidental to the real offense, which is twofold. First, why did the administration lie? Well, it wanted to conceal its utter failure to prepare for terrorist attacks on Sept. 11 -- which is like being surprised by Christmas falling on Dec. 25. Also, the Obama administration, by which I mean the Obama campaign, was desperate to protect its hyped record of fighting terrorism. A "spontaneous" attack invited not by the administration's shortcomings but by some nutty video was just the ticket.....snip~

Hillary Clinton's Dodgy Testimony - Jonah Goldberg - Page 2


Seems not all the left wing Media can just act like they are the ones only with a thought or two.....huh?
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Blaming the attack on some B movie is absolutely ridiculous. Have you seen it? It's like a Muslim version of the "Ten Commandments."

Either way Hillary is a lying bitch or Muslims are intolerant fools that progressives consistently defend..

IMO, it's both.

I love how Hillary acted offended while she was grilled as if it was rude that she had to justify her position (or lack there of).

Hillary's demeanor blatantly shows she believes she is above the law.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Blaming the attack on some B movie is absolutely ridiculous. Have you seen it? It's like a Muslim version of the "Ten Commandments."

Either way Hillary is a lying bitch or Muslims are intolerant fools that progressives consistently defend..

IMO, it's both.

I love how Hillary acted offended while she was grilled as if it was rude that she had to justify her position (or lack there of).

Hillary's demeanor blatantly shows she believes she is above the law.
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Even better was her showing she don't care with that line of "what does it matter". Guess she wasnt thinking of all who are actively serving at this moment in time. Hoping to God she didn't screw up with their Embassy or Consulate Security.....huh?
 
MMC said:
Even better was her showing she don't care with that line of "what does it matter". Guess she wasnt thinking of all who are actively serving at this moment in time. Hoping to God she didn't screw up with their Embassy or Consulate Security.....huh?
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It must be great to be a Democrat where no one is ever held responsible for their actions, where no real qualifications are necessary to hold higher office and where supporters will lie in order to blindly defend their side.

Hillary was an admirer of Saul Alinsky and so was Obama.

Now Obama is giving away F-16's to the Muslim Brotherhood which in turn will be used to murder Jews and Americans, and Hillary must have known about this impending deal.

U.S. gift of F-16 fighters headed to Egypt, despite Morsi's harsh rhetoric | Fox News

If the USA was intent on destroying itself it seems Obama is going about it the right way.

His aside to Putin's aide about having 'more flexibility' during his second term is now approaching reality.
 
MMC said:
Even better was her showing she don't care with that line of "what does it matter". Guess she wasnt thinking of all who are actively serving at this moment in time. Hoping to God she didn't screw up with their Embassy or Consulate Security.....huh?
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I don't believe they ever had any intent on saving those men, otherwise they would have made an effort.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Blaming the attack on some B movie is absolutely ridiculous. Have you seen it? It's like a Muslim version of the "Ten Commandments."

Either way Hillary is a lying bitch or Muslims are intolerant fools that progressives consistently defend..

IMO, it's both.

I love how Hillary acted offended while she was grilled as if it was rude that she had to justify her position (or lack there of).

Hillary's demeanor blatantly shows she believes she is above the law.
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Anti islam movies atr scattered all over the Internet and its ludicrous to believe that muslims would react to that one in particular.

There are threads on here where the Kool Aders were all for arresting that poor guy in Californian while others knew right away the video was not responsible. And if so many recognize the extreme unlikelihood of it being the result of a video, why couldn't Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton arrive at the same correct conclusion?

I think we all know the answer to that.
 
"What difference does it make?!"

I'll tell you what difference it makes. Your lie lead to an American citizen being tried and convicted in the public eye for an offense that wasn't illegal and was protected by the Constitution. Your lie temporarily tarnished the reputations of marines that willingly volunteered their lives when you wouldn't even volunteer a drone. Your lie was used by the President to demonize our country for even having a bill of rights. Your lie prevented the American people from making an informed decision in November. Your lie, had it not gone undiscovered, would have left an American citizen in our jail system as a political prisoner, tarnished the reputations of two of the greatest marines to have ever lived, demonized our way of life and altered an election. That's the difference it makes. Your lie doesn't border on treason...it was treason.
 
ModerateGOP said:
That's just presidential egotistical emotions. Proving that Obama really doesn't care about you! Shocker, does any President?
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He mentioned that the Sec.of State was lying. Emotions were not mentioned in what the father had to say and I was focusing more on this administration.
 
Grant said:
It must be great to be a Democrat where no one is ever held responsible for their actions, where no real qualifications are necessary to hold higher office and where supporters will lie in order to blindly defend their side.

Hillary was an admirer of Saul Alinsky and so was Obama.

Now Obama is giving away F-16's to the Muslim Brotherhood which in turn will be used to murder Jews and Americans, and Hillary must have known about this impending deal.

U.S. gift of F-16 fighters headed to Egypt, despite Morsi's harsh rhetoric | Fox News

If the USA was intent on destroying itself it seems Obama is going about it the right way.

His aside to Putin's aide about having 'more flexibility' during his second term is now approaching reality.
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Plus she bypassed Congress and released funds to Egypt. Which is why more and more need to let Obama hear he dropped the ball on 911 and keep putting that in his face. As well as helping him to understand. What a Lame Duck really is!

Again she is suppose to appear with him on 60 Minutes this Sunday. Wherein I am sure Obama will try to spin it on how she was the Best SOS we ever had. Despite their Foreign Policy being an constant failure.
 
MMC said:
Plus she bypassed Congress and released funds to Egypt. Which is why more and more need to let Obama hear he dropped the ball on 911 and keep putting that in his face. As well as helping him to understand. What a Lame Duck really is!

Again she is suppose to appear with him on 60 Minutes this Sunday. Wherein I am sure Obama will try to spin it on how she was the Best SOS we ever had. Despite their Foreign Policy being an constant failure.
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It's interesting that they have to be interviewed together.

It would seem like a mutual CYA gig.

Why wouldn't the media be interested in talking to the survivors of the attack, even if Clinton and Obama aren't? Clinton Has Talked to Only 1 American Benghazi Survivor in 4 Months; Talked to None in Wake of Attack | CNS News
 
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From Shawn Mitchell/Townhall.com:

For the record, Madame Secretary, it makes all the difference. It matters for public accountability: Understanding how the attack developed sheds light on how reasonable or not the decisions were that preceded it. It helps the public gauge the magnitude of the failure and reasonable consequences for a diplomat or politician who claims “full responsibility.” Is that just a convenient phrase to survive the news cycle, or does it mean something?

It matters for the administration’s credibility: People have a right to know if their government dealt straight or if it maneuvered feverishly to conceal and mislead for advantage in the campaign’s closing weeks. Every lie advanced the president’s narrative and deflected criticism. Coincidence?

It matters for understanding the larger global context and US interest: A planned Al Qaeda terror attack on America runs counter to the president’s story of positive trends in the Middle East. Is America’s stock rising or falling? Is Al Qaeda dwindling or resurgent? Was the US mission as rumored an illegal conduit of arms to Islamist rebels in Syria?

When John F. Kennedy took a bath in the Bay of Pigs, he couldn’t blame it on a Cuban fiesta that got out of hand. He never dreamed of trying. He had to own his policies and their consequences. A more professional press of the day helped ensure it.

The Last Clinton Lie Makes a Difference - Shawn Mitchell - Townhall Finance Conservative Columnists and Financial Commentary
 
MMC said:
It matters that the Obama administration misled the American people from the start about the attack, suggesting for weeks, most notably through UN Ambassador Susan Rice, that the attack was caused by a spontaneous protest over an American produced anti-Muslim video. After killing Osama bin Laden, the Obama administration wanted us to believe the threat of al Qaeda and Islamic radicals was diminished but the Benghazi attack blew an inconvenient hole in the President’s narrative.

The CIA confirmed numerous times to Congress, including former CIA Director David Petraeus, the agency knew immediately the Benghazi attack was planned and implemented by terrorists. But the real “difference” this all makes is that the State Department’s Accountability Review Board’s report, commissioned by Madame Hillary herself, concluded the attack on Benghazi resulted from the State Department’s gross negligence in security. Translation: “big screw up.”

This all makes a “difference” because it makes Secretary Clinton look incompetent. When she flippantly declared with a smirk during the Senate hearing that she couldn't be bothered to read the 1.4 million cables that came through to the State Department last year, including those from Ambassador Stevens, Senator Rand Paul expressed the collective disgust of America.....snip~

Hillary

Guess it just takes a couple days to start filter thru all the Deflection and garbage the left is cat calling with.....huh?
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Why all this chattering magpie noise about Clinton and Benghazi? Why not object to the overthrow of Qaddaffi, the most progressive leader on the African continent? This is all a farce about OIL, same as always. Get real.
 
DaveFagan said:
Why all this chattering magpie noise about Clinton and Benghazi? Why not object to the overthrow of Qaddaffi, the most progressive leader on the African continent? This is all a farce about OIL, same as always. Get real.
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Already surpassed that point about the US getting involved into anothers Civil War. Didn't agree with then and still don't.

Course that chattering you are hearing. Are Clintons Dentures knowing History has her blacked marked.....forever!!!!! :cool:
 
DaveFagan said:
Why all this chattering magpie noise about Clinton and Benghazi? Why not object to the overthrow of Qaddaffi, the most progressive leader on the African continent? This is all a farce about OIL, same as always. Get real.
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Because Clinton and Benghazi is the subject of this thread. Look above. It says "Clinton To Face Congress on Libya Assault....."

Instead of trying to deflect on this thread, why not start another thread that claims everything is 'All About Oil'.
 
Grant said:
It's insane but with the MSM on her side she will probably get away with it. It was also crazy to elect BHO for a second term but that's just what happened. After that how can we expect a serious and rational response from the electorate? Stupid people have the right to vote also.

Now there are no real qualifications necessary to win the Presidency and no consequences for irresponsible and bungling behavior, even when it comes to the loss of American lives. Not enough people care anymore.
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Some molehills never get to be mountains no matter how much some people will it.
 
Mr.Nick said:
She's proven herself to be irresponsible and a tyrant..

Hillary actually said something of the notion of: "so what why does it matter if we had enough security because it already happened."

It goes to show how delusional the progressive thought process actually is - nothing matters to them... That bitch Clinton may as well implied "so what I killed a person with my car, he was going to die 50 years from now anyways." Sad because that was their position with Ted Kennedy.

Every time they get into hot water it's always "so what."

Their narcissistic attitudes were one of the main reasons why I left the progressive party - total hypocrites.

"So what I give them cake and let them kill so I can exploit them, then blame republicans and my constituents will believe me because I give them cake."

The best part is the idiot Clinton is dumbfounded as to why she's being grilled. It's obvious how out of touch with reality she actually is.
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Why wasn't GW Bush "grilled" for failing to pass the warnings about 911 on to the rest of us? The hypocracy of the right is just too funny. 3000 Americans died because of Bush's bungling and not a word from them.
 
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