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Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody[W: 150]

Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

Hardly. The right to dictate others' lives is the most dangerous power available.

Oh, there's not a lot of dictating going on. Never heard tell of anyone dying after a drive by voting. ;)
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

Clever tactic indeed. Perhaps you can tell us just why the "consequences of that issue" and "the inherent dangers involved" seemed to arrive spontaneously, and immediately after the 2012 election, yet did not seem to exist at all during the campaign leading up to that election. Feinstein just happened to have an AWB/MCL written and ready to roll out even before the "Biden team" even called for it. To me this seems just a bit more of a political timing of a preplanned event (poitical agenda?) rather than some "crisis" or "emergency" situation having suddenly occured to trigger it. As recent news reports suggest the real nature (truth?) of the infamous CT shooting, initially hyped as "proof" that an AWB ban was "the answer", now indicate that handguns, not even mentioned in most of the 23 EO nonsense, were the weapons of mass murder in that "key" incident.

There's a lot more people today, and population centers are large. An idiot can do a lot of damage. And they do. A young man plays around at a party and accidentally shoots a girl across the room in the neck killing her. A kid plays with dad's pistol and shots a brother, sister, random neighbor kid. On a hunting trip, someone accidentally shots someone in the face. This stuff happens regular enough.

Facts:

WASHINGTON — Between 2006 and 2010, 561 children age 12 and under were killed by firearms, according to the FBI’s most recent Uniform Crime Reports.

The numbers each year have been consistent: 120, 115, 116, 114, and 96 in 2010. The FBI’s count does not include gun-related child deaths that authorities have ruled accidental.

‘‘This happens on way too regular a basis and it affects families and communities — not at once, so we don’t see it and we don’t understand it as part of our national experience,’’ said Daniel Webster, director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research.

Gunfire kills young children daily in US - Nation - The Boston Globe

For every time a gun in the home was used in a self-defense or legally justifiable shooting, there were four unintentional shootings, seven criminal assaults or homicides, and 11 attempted or completed suicides.

Injuries and deaths due to firearms in the home. [J Trauma. 1998] - PubMed - NCBI

The 3,385 firearms-related deaths for age group 0-19 years breaks down to:Four teen boys

214 unintentional
1,078 suicides
1,990 homicides
83 for which the intent could not be determined
20 due to legal intervention

Of the total firearms-related deaths:

73 were of children under five years old
416 were children 5-14 years old
2,896 were 15-19 years old

Gun Safety for Kids and Youth: Your Child: University of Michigan Health System

Consequences.
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

Yeah man...you bet. Like...no guns, and they still manage to successfully complete the act of suicide at a rate 5 times greater than in the US. Which makes your suicide/gun comment rather...silly.

Don't get carried away, you have not disproven that guns are more often used by US soldiers for suicide.
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

Oh, there's not a lot of dictating going on. Never heard tell of anyone dying after a drive by voting. ;)
There have been quite a few voted after dying though:mrgreen:
Poor decisions over generations, may kill all of us, or at least our way of life.
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

Oh, there's not a lot of dictating going on. Never heard tell of anyone dying after a drive by voting. ;)

Really? Not to keen on history, then, are you? We voted to anihilate the native americans, and then there's the african americans...you should maybe think before you post.
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

There's a lot more people today, and population centers are large. An idiot can do a lot of damage. And they do. A young man plays around at a party and accidentally shoots a girl across the room in the neck killing her. A kid plays with dad's pistol and shots a brother, sister, random neighbor kid. On a hunting trip, someone accidentally shots someone in the face. This stuff happens regular enough.

Facts:

WASHINGTON — Between 2006 and 2010, 561 children age 12 and under were killed by firearms, according to the FBI’s most recent Uniform Crime Reports.

The numbers each year have been consistent: 120, 115, 116, 114, and 96 in 2010. The FBI’s count does not include gun-related child deaths that authorities have ruled accidental.

‘‘This happens on way too regular a basis and it affects families and communities — not at once, so we don’t see it and we don’t understand it as part of our national experience,’’ said Daniel Webster, director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research.

Gunfire kills young children daily in US - Nation - The Boston Globe

For every time a gun in the home was used in a self-defense or legally justifiable shooting, there were four unintentional shootings, seven criminal assaults or homicides, and 11 attempted or completed suicides.

Injuries and deaths due to firearms in the home. [J Trauma. 1998] - PubMed - NCBI

The 3,385 firearms-related deaths for age group 0-19 years breaks down to:Four teen boys

214 unintentional
1,078 suicides
1,990 homicides
83 for which the intent could not be determined
20 due to legal intervention

Of the total firearms-related deaths:

73 were of children under five years old
416 were children 5-14 years old
2,896 were 15-19 years old

Gun Safety for Kids and Youth: Your Child: University of Michigan Health System

Consequences.

Like I said, all of this existed prior to the 2012 elections, yet the campaign silence on the "critical issue" was deafening. ;)
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody[W: 1

Here we go again...

Three people were injured during a shooting on the campus of Lone Star College in Houston, Texas, this afternoon, causing the school to be locked down and evacuated while police searched for a suspect.

Police officials who spoke on campus at 3 p.m. today said that shots were fired on the campus and at least three people were injured.

"A person of interest has been detained," said Major Armando Tello of the Harris County Sherrif's Department.
- U.S. News | National News - Latest Headlines, Videos, Photos - ABC News

Maybe if the media stopped sensationalizing this crap it wouldn't happen?

It's abundantly clear that there are psychos out there that will kill several people for their 15 minutes.
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody[W: 1

Maybe if the media stopped sensationalizing this crap it wouldn't happen?

It's abundantly clear that there are psychos out there that will kill several people for their 15 minutes.

Could not agree more. In fact when I posted this, that is why I said "here we go again."
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

There have been quite a few voted after dying though:mrgreen:
Poor decisions over generations, may kill all of us, or at least our way of life.

We're largely still here, even after a couple of centuries.
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

Really? Not to keen on history, then, are you? We voted to anihilate the native americans, and then there's the african americans...you should maybe think before you post.

Yeah, pretty familiar with all of that, but I was speaking a little more recently. Still, that was a cultural problem Without the support of the people, it wouldn't have happened. We were the problem.
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

Like I said, all of this existed prior to the 2012 elections, yet the campaign silence on the "critical issue" was deafening. ;)

Of course. We were told the last ten times we had such shooting that we couldn't talk about them when one was happening. or soon after. Or anytime really. But frankly, there is a public concern.
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

This isn't a mass shooting.

Fair enough, but the past string of public shootings (outside of gang related violence) have been almost all committed by mentally disturbed people.
 
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Maybe if the media stopped sensationalizing this crap it wouldn't happen?

It's abundantly clear that there are psychos out there that will kill several people for their 15 minutes.
Nope, mass shootings and violence in general have not risen in accordance with the availability of media. Just an oversimplification that some tend to fall back on.
 
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Nope, mass shootings and violence in general have not risen in accordance with the availability of media. Just an oversimplification that some tend to fall back on.

No, it's quite clear mass shooting have risen with the media attention given to them.

Before Columbine I know of only a few shootings since Kent State, after the shootings at Columbine mass shootings went up 500% at least.
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody[W: 1

Nope, mass shootings and violence in general have not risen in accordance with the availability of media. Just an oversimplification that some tend to fall back on.

But you might want to consider who the targets were before compared to now. If someone goes postal at work, we can at least kind of understand what might have been at issue. When someone mows down a classroom full of Amish kids or kindergartners, that is just so F'd up that it transcends gun statistics or reason or understanding.
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

I've seen first hand outcomes with civilians with weapons as a paramedic.

You see first hand outcomes with cops with weapons as a paramedic?
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

Sure you were. :lol:

You do realize that this comment has absolutely nothing to do with what you quoted, yes? Please keep the stupid to yourself.
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody[W: 1

Maybe if the media stopped sensationalizing this crap it wouldn't happen?

It's abundantly clear that there are psychos out there that will kill several people for their 15 minutes.

That's why the Media stopped mentioning the people who jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge. When they did suicides would go up, when they stayed silent about the jumpers, the numbers went down.
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

Maybe you trust every citizen with a gun more than the police, but most people do not.

The individual is a probability, the government is a guarantee.
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

You see first hand outcomes with cops with weapons as a paramedic?

With and without actually. The ones I listed were not cops, as they only shot someone who really wasn't armed on my watch.

But this is what your responded to:

I've seen first hand outcomes with civilians with weapons as a paramedic.
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

So....wait...somewhere, among the 350+ millions americans, two of them with guns shot at each other?

You can bet it never happened in Chicago. That community is organized, and guns are banned.
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

From what I have heard, there was only one gun and one shooter involved.
And placing his gun back in his waistband, the gun discharged, striking him in the backside.
Arrested later at the Hospital.

Nope, there were two, and they were trying to shoot each other, not others.
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

With and without actually. The ones I listed were not cops, as they only shot someone who really wasn't armed on my watch.

But this is what your responded to:

I've seen first hand outcomes with civilians with weapons as a paramedic.

Yes, I read that. Believe it or not, as a PhD physicist, I can actually read. You wanted to present that comment as some form of evidence as to why the individual should be restricted; which is why I asked the follow up.
 
Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

You do know why they only let Barney have one bullet, don't you?

I'm assuming the person with power considered those under him to be too stupid to act responsibly.

Was that your take as well?
 
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