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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Like I said, the GFZ status (or lack thereof) had *nothing* to do with this event, and some people are using this violence to promote their political ideology
    yeah the anti gunners are just as they did with the aurora and CT shootings

    shouldn't laws that say its illegal to bring guns on campus stop people wiling to engage in homicide?



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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

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    No. There are no guns allowed. If this happened in a mall, there is a greater chance of a citizen having a gun. At the school, only a law enforcement officer or security guard will have a weapon. Since they are required to be in uniform when they carry in a gun free zone, only a quick scan of the people in the immediate area is needed to determine who might be a threat to the gunman.
    So you're saying that if the mall were a GFZ, the shooting would have happened there, even though the shooters were not at the mall?

    And a "quick scan" (and there's no evidence that such a scan was done) doesn't gaurantee the absense of a LEO

    But you did answer my question. You are trying to make this an argument of nuances because the second amendment supporters have been harping on the fact that these shootings are more likely to happen in gun free zones. You are losing the argument when another high profile shooting happens in another gun free zone. You are the only one that believes there are no guns in a gun free zone. And I don't think you actually believe that. No one ever claimed there are zero guns, just far fewer.
    No, I'm not. Only the fanatics, on either side, believes that correlation = causation.

    And most shootings happen in a non-GFZ, but unlike the fanatics, I won't use a delusion to make anything of that fact
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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yeah the anti gunners are just as they did with the aurora and CT shootings

    shouldn't laws that say its illegal to bring guns on campus stop people wiling to engage in homicide?
    lack of grammar noted

    If you translate that into standard english, I might respond
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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    lack of grammar noted

    If you translate that into standard english, I might respond
    you already did respond. and sometimes the auto correct on my unit screws things up

    but you understood what I said



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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you already did respond. and sometimes the auto correct on my unit screws things up

    but you understood what I said
    Yes, blame it on the machine
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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes, blame it on the machine
    isn't that what your entire gun control movement is about?



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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    isn't that what your entire gun control movement is about?
    Yes, gun safety laws are meant to stop you from blaming your computer for your poor grammar
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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So you're saying that if the mall were a GFZ, the shooting would have happened there, even though the shooters were not at the mall?
    Where in the hell do you get that?

    And a "quick scan" (and there's no evidence that such a scan was done) doesn't gaurantee the absense of a LEO
    Oh, so you saw a security tape that showed the shooter with blinders on and that he didn't know where anyone was or whether or not they were a law enforcement officer? Using your logic above, the shooter would have shot the man even if he was standing in a Houston police station.



    No, I'm not. Only the fanatics, on either side, believes that correlation = causation.
    That is the most over used nonfallacy fallacy. Correlation can indeed equal causation. In fact, all health studies are based on correlation = causation. You just need enough points of data to compare to eliminate the possibility of outside factors. In the 20 years since the gun free zone was established, nearly every mass shooting occurred in a gun free zone. Columbine, Aurora, Sandy, Virginia Tech, Oikos, Northern Illinois University, and even Fort Hood happened in an area where the service members could not carry. There is enough evidence to support the theory and warrant considerations to change the law.

    And most shootings happen in a non-GFZ, but unlike the fanatics, I won't use a delusion to make anything of that fact
    Not mass shootings.
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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes, gun safety laws are meant to stop you from blaming your computer for your poor grammar
    that's even more stupid than most of your other posts



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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Where in the hell do you get that?
    From your post



    Oh, so you saw a security tape that showed the shooter with blinders on and that he didn't know where anyone was or whether or not they were a law enforcement officer? Using your logic above, the shooter would have shot the man even if he was standing in a Houston police station.
    Oh, so you saw a security tape that showed that the shooter did scan the area and did know where everyone was and whether or not they were a LEO?



    That is the most over used nonfallacy fallacy. Correlation can indeed equal causation. In fact, all health studies are based on correlation = causation. You just need enough points of data to compare to eliminate the possibility of outside factors. In the 20 years since the gun free zone was established, nearly every mass shooting occurred in a gun free zone. Columbine, Aurora, Sandy, Virginia Tech, Oikos, Northern Illinois University, and even Fort Hood happened in an area where the service members could not carry. There is enough evidence to support the theory and warrant considerations to change the law.
    Actually, not all health studies are based on correlation, and the ones that do are not considered to have shown causation. They merely give medical researchers an indication for further research

    And you said "shooting", not "mass shooting". If you're going to limit this to mass shootings, then you'll have to provide evidence that the mass shooters took the fact that the place was a GFZ into consideration. Since there is no such evidence, and more evidence that other factors were what determined the locations, you will lose the gun fanatics argument concerning how GFZ's are targetted by mass shooters.



    Not mass shootings.
    you said shootings
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