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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody[W: 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    we have to start someplace. if we are not willing to teach our children, we get exactly what we deserve.
    teach them what?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody[W: 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I never sourced Lott.

    I sourced Harvard, I sourced The Washington Times, and for flaver I posted a 6min video of a guy who sources the FBI and the UK's official crime statistics record.

    Here is that post again, you tell me where Lott is used....


    *****

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    The AWB had failed to have an impact on gun crime in the United States. A 2004 Department of Justice report concluded:
    Should it be renewed, the ban's effects on gun violence are likely to be small at best and perhaps too small for reliable measurement. [Assault weapons] were rarely used in gun crimes even before the ban.


    Here are specific incidents of active shooters being stopped by armed civilians:

    • A 1997 high school shooting in Pearl, Miss., was halted by the school's vice principal after he retrieved the Colt .45 he kept in his truck.
    • A 1998 middle school shooting ended when a man living next door heard gunfire and apprehended the shooter with his shotgun.
    • A 2002 terrorist attack at an Israeli school was quickly stopped by an armed teacher and a school guard.
    • A 2002 law school shooting in Grundy, Va., came to an abrupt conclusion when students carrying firearms confronted the shooter.
    • A 2007 mall shooting in Salt Lake City, Utah, ended when an armed off-duty police officer intervened.
    • A 2009 workplace shooting in Houston, Texas, was halted by two coworkers who carried concealed handguns.
    • A 2012 church shooting in Aurora, Colo., was stopped by a member of the congregation carrying a gun.
    • At the recent mall shooting in Portland, Ore., the gunman took his own life minutes after being confronted by a shopper carrying a concealed weapon.



    You present information that is not on point. I have not claimed gun control reduces suicides or crime. I claim lack of gun control doesn't either. Harvard talks about a non-correlation and not a correlation between having guns and crime going down. Once again, you confuse issues, much as you do in the other thread.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody[W: 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    teach them what?
    What we were just talking about, responsibility.
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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody[W: 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    What we were just talking about, responsibility.
    I don't think arming them teaches them responsibility. I can think of much less risky ways to teach responsibility.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody[W: 150]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I don't think arming them teaches them responsibility. I can think of much less risky ways to teach responsibility.
    Was someone talking about arming children or adult security people around them?
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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You must think this my first debate or something

    Every time some, on any topic, and on either side of a given topic, this isn't unique to any political group....says that no evidence exists for something, they always...always reject any and everything which is sourced after that statement.

    You can go on thinking I have no such evidence, but as I posted a wall of all such evidence just last night on another thread, I know differently.

    I'm not going to post it again on this thread because there is always the chance of getting points for spamming if I post my pre-written responces it to often.
    Since this is not your first time, you're certainly aware that you can post a link. You're just as certainly aware that posting research in response to a request is in no way infractable.

    IOW, your response was dishonest
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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody[W: 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Here is where you are supposed to lay out the argument concisely, not link to somewhere off DebatePolitics.com where the argument can be found. The point of this site is to have the argument here.
    And yet, contrary to this post of yours, you refuse to do so and instead dishonestly claim that if you were to do so, you would get an infraction
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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody[W: 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Each tree is recognized by its own fruit. People do not pick figs from thornbushes, or grapes from briers.
    Luke, 6:44


    I'm putting out Harvard, FBI, CDC, quoting state laws and SCOTUS decisions...and all the anti-gunners are using is wiki and a couple kook blogs.

    #lowinformationvoters
    You are using studies that only show correlations, while claiming that correlation doesn't prove causation
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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody[W: 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I never sourced Lott.

    I sourced Harvard, I sourced The Washington Times, and for flaver I posted a 6min video of a guy who sources the FBI and the UK's official crime statistics record.

    Here is that post again, you tell me where Lott is used....


    *****

    Sources used in the video:






    The AWB had failed to have an impact on gun crime in the United States. A 2004 Department of Justice report concluded:
    Should it be renewed, the ban's effects on gun violence are likely to be small at best and perhaps too small for reliable measurement. [Assault weapons] were rarely used in gun crimes even before the ban.


    Here are specific incidents of active shooters being stopped by armed civilians:

    • A 1997 high school shooting in Pearl, Miss., was halted by the school's vice principal after he retrieved the Colt .45 he kept in his truck.
    • A 1998 middle school shooting ended when a man living next door heard gunfire and apprehended the shooter with his shotgun.
    • A 2002 terrorist attack at an Israeli school was quickly stopped by an armed teacher and a school guard.
    • A 2002 law school shooting in Grundy, Va., came to an abrupt conclusion when students carrying firearms confronted the shooter.
    • A 2007 mall shooting in Salt Lake City, Utah, ended when an armed off-duty police officer intervened.
    • A 2009 workplace shooting in Houston, Texas, was halted by two coworkers who carried concealed handguns.
    • A 2012 church shooting in Aurora, Colo., was stopped by a member of the congregation carrying a gun.
    • At the recent mall shooting in Portland, Ore., the gunman took his own life minutes after being confronted by a shopper carrying a concealed weapon.



    You said you had proof that more guns = less crime that didn't rely on correlation
    Then you said you wouldn't post the stats because you'd get an

    Now, you're posting your stats, and every one of them relies of the cause = correllation fallacy

    Thanks for proving the dishonesty of your posts, and the accuracy of mine
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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody[W: 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    There are 11 links in that post.

    Not one of them lead you to Lott.
    All of them depend on the correlation = causation fallacy, despite your dishonest claim that you had proof
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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