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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You can bet it never happened in Chicago. That community is organized, and guns are banned.
    17 people were shot over the weekend 2 died.

    Of course that is no where near the 48 shot over a weekend this past summer in which 8 died.

    Of course that is just reported numbers. I've been shot at a couple of times and I never reported it, I've seen drive bys and they were never reported.

    My buddy used to live on 79th and Brandon and when I would wait for the train at 79th and Western all you would hear every second was "pop pop pop" and it never stopped... It was nothing short of a combat zone for all purposes. Probably more dangerous than Iraq.

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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The individual is a probability, the government is a guarantee.
    Let's see your figures that show the police in the US kill more innocent people each year than do non-police.
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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't know if they would do better or not, and aggregate over a large enough population and you'll have a non-zero percentage that don't. But I don't think I have the rightful force to stop them. At the end of the day, well trained people ARE better than untrained people. But perhaps it's better just to make available general training rather than restricting particularly given the demonstrated failure modes of government.
    I'm not sure the failure is the governments as their role is rather limited. Instead, a country fully in love with guns might have a cultural failure. I think there is enough evidence to question that if not answer it fully.

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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Let's see your figures that show the police in the US kill more innocent people each year than do non-police.
    Are those figures kept? That's certainly something I wouldn't necessarily think the government would record and make available. One is too many. One is license for the People to have the means to resist.
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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm not sure the failure is the governments as their role is rather limited. Instead, a country fully in love with guns might have a cultural failure. I think there is enough evidence to question that if not answer it fully.
    Limited? When was the last time you did something without government involvement? There are certainly dangers associated with freedom, but as freedom is inherently dangerous there's nothing much one can do about it. Live free or live enslaved; those are your choices. Both have dangers.
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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Let's see your figures that show the police in the US kill more innocent people each year than do non-police.
    They are all innocent until proven guilty (Though I have seen some pretty alarming numbers on the numbers of mentally ill killed by the police)

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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    They are all innocent until proven guilty (Though I have seen some pretty alarming numbers on the numbers of mentally ill killed by the police)
    I'd actually like to see the complete, unadulterated stats on how many people a year cops kill. I don't think they release that number though.
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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I'd actually like to see the complete, unadulterated stats on how many people a year cops kill. I don't think they release that number though.
    I have seen some state numbers. It suggested almost half of those shot by cops were mentally ill. Maybe those two pieces of info will give you some guidance for a google search for at least some press articles. When I am feeling a little more focused, I will try to see if I can find some nationals statistics for your consideration.

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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    17 people were shot over the weekend 2 died.

    Of course that is no where near the 48 shot over a weekend this past summer in which 8 died.

    Of course that is just reported numbers. I've been shot at a couple of times and I never reported it, I've seen drive bys and they were never reported.

    My buddy used to live on 79th and Brandon and when I would wait for the train at 79th and Western all you would hear every second was "pop pop pop" and it never stopped... It was nothing short of a combat zone for all purposes. Probably more dangerous than Iraq.
    It reads like farce of the worst kind. If this ongoing, and tragic, story was submitted for a possible book it would be rejected as being too far from any possibility reality.

    But there it is.Chicago Homicides Outnumber U.S. Troop Killings In Afghanistan

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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Are those figures kept?

    That's certainly something I wouldn't necessarily think the government would record and make available. One is too many. One is license for the People to have the means to resist.
    You are the one that made the claim. On what did you base that claim?
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