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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

    This story must be false. He didn't have an AR15 or high capacity firearm. Only those can be used in shootings.

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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That may be true, but even you admit some may have gone array. Now, consider lesser trained people shooting.
    I already did. A lesser trained person with a 2-5lb trigger is more accurate than a well trained cop with a 13lb trigger.

    The New York Trigger negates any training the cop received than a relatively low trained civilian. Trigger pull makes that big of a difference.

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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    Your post was fine. Valid points and grounded in reality. Right up until this point....



    ...and then you lost control and revealed yourself.

    "Get even more guns on the streets as part of a political agenda"??? I guess blind partisans like yourself just can't avoid that "WTF???" moment that renders any prior logical dialog moot, can they...

    Typical.
    What exactly did I say that was factually untrue? Is it not the intent and goal of many gun groups to expand gun ownership and put more guns in the hands of people? Is it not a fact that gun politics goes hand in hand with much of conservative politics and one works with the other as evidenced by the NRA's own delcared political contributions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What exactly did I say that was factually untrue? Is it not the intent and goal of many gun groups to expand gun ownership and put more guns in the hands of people? Is it not a fact that gun politics goes hand in hand with much of conservative politics and one works with the other as evidenced by the NRA's own delcared political contributions?

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    You said that the goal was to "get more guns on the streets". That statement is a gross misrepresentation of the entire concept of legal gun ownership.

    But then again, I'm not telling you anything here that you don't already know...
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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It was trained police officers that shot 9 bystanders. The guy with a concealed weapon at the Arizona shooting almost shot the hero because he thought he was the shooter!
    Cops are about as proficient as gangbangers with firearms and expelled 3 times the ammo. The average citizen should handle their firearms more intelligently than our police.
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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Aren't they trained? Doesn't this underscore the difficulty of asserting that being armed equals being safe?
    They continually show reckless display. I wouldn't base decisions on civilian access to firearms off an aggressive, apathetic towards public safety, authoritarian branch of the government.
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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    From your post





    Oh, so you saw a security tape that showed that the shooter did scan the area and did know where everyone was and whether or not they were a LEO?

    As I pointed out, if he had known there was a law enforcement officer near by, he would be highly unlikely to pull a weapon.



    Actually, not all health studies are based on correlation, and the ones that do are not considered to have shown causation. They merely give medical researchers an indication for further research
    LMAO...your struggling here.

    And you said "shooting", not "mass shooting". If you're going to limit this to mass shootings, then you'll have to provide evidence that the mass shooters took the fact that the place was a GFZ into consideration. Since there is no such evidence, and more evidence that other factors were what determined the locations, you will lose the gun fanatics argument concerning how GFZ's are targetted by mass shooters.
    And here we go back to the causation = correlation. By the fact that most mass shootings happen in gun free zones and not areas where you would expect guns (like police stations) tells us there is a highly probable correlation.
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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    You said that the goal was to "get more guns on the streets". That statement is a gross misrepresentation of the entire concept of legal gun ownership.

    But then again, I'm not telling you anything here that you don't already know...
    We have a difference of opinion about that then. I clearly see as one goal of gun groups to enlarge the population of gun owners so that it empowers them and their agenda. In fact, the statements of Wayne La Pierre of the NRA have confirmed this.

    Others in the gun culture have made it very clear that they want more guns and more people to carry guns.

    http://johnrlott.blogspot.com/

    If you require more proof, I can provide statements from folks expressing much the same thing as Mr. Lott.
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    Re: Lone Star College Shooting Leaves 3 Injured, 'Person of Interest' in Custody

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Sure they would -

    NYPD: 9 Civilians Near Empire State Building Were All Shot By Police

    "Police Commissioner Ray Kelly told reporters today that cops inadvertently wounded nine people yesterday."

    NYPD: 9 Civilians Near Empire State Building Were All Shot By Police: Gothamist
    If you had actually read the article you would know the people were not shot buy stray bullets. They got hit by fragments that ricocheted during the shooting.
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