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    Re: Redding California Tea Party right to bear arms Second Amendment Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    "Obama signed a whopping 23 executive orders related to "gun control" Wednesday. At least one of them would appear to directly defy legislation duly approved by Congress and signed into law--making the orders illegal. Let's look at order #14:

    14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

    This executive order would seem to run afoul of the little problem that Congress has for years specifically disallowed such "research" in its budget legislation, because it was actually no more than an effort to slap a thin veneer of academic respectability over anti-gun activism, in order to provide justification for more oppressive gun laws.

    Basically, groups like the Brady Campaign, who have railed against congressional interference with their agenda of anti-gun "science" want not only to impose draconian laws on American gun-owning taxpayers, but want them to pay for the laws' supposed justification as well. So far, Congress has seen through that, and disallowed funding for the research. An executive order mandating it is thus illegal."

    Obama signed a whopping 23 executive orders related to "gun control" Wednesday. At least one of them would appear to directly defy legislation duly approved by Congress and signed into law--making the orders illegal. Let's look at order #14:

    14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

    This executive order would seem to run afoul of the little problem that Congress has for years specifically disallowed such "research" in its budget legislation, because it was actually no more than an effort to slap a thin veneer of academic respectability over anti-gun activism, in order to provide justification for more oppressive gun laws.

    Basically, groups like the Brady Campaign, who have railed against congressional interference with their agenda of anti-gun "science" want not only to impose draconian laws on American gun-owning taxpayers, but want them to pay for the laws' supposed justification as well. So far, Congress has seen through that, and disallowed funding for the research. An executive order mandating it is thus illegal.

    Obama signed a whopping 23 executive orders related to "gun control" Wednesday. At least one of them would appear to directly defy legislation duly approved by Congress and signed into law--making the orders illegal. Let's look at order #14:

    14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

    This executive order would seem to run afoul of the little problem that Congress has for years specifically disallowed such "research" in its budget legislation, because it was actually no more than an effort to slap a thin veneer of academic respectability over anti-gun activism, in order to provide justification for more oppressive gun laws.

    Basically, groups like the Brady Campaign, who have railed against congressional interference with their agenda of anti-gun "science" want not only to impose draconian laws on American gun-owning taxpayers, but want them to pay for the laws' supposed justification as well. So far, Congress has seen through that, and disallowed funding for the research. An executive order mandating it is thus illegal.

    Obama's illegal executive orders for 'gun control' undermine rule of law - St. Louis gun rights | Examiner.com
    If it is indeed illegal then Congress can knock it down, but EO's are not laws only Congress can make laws and when they get back from their Winter vacations maybe, just maybe they'll do something. The fact is, a President can not make laws. If there are any gun ban laws in our future then it's all on Congress.

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    Re: Redding California Tea Party right to bear arms Second Amendment Rally

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    The ever catty braying loons always skip the issues and go straight for the most personal attack they can find. They'd ridicule the color of someone's sox if they could.

    That is why it is generally now accepted in American lexicon that the term "women" always includes male liberals.
    What does all that even mean?
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    Re: Redding California Tea Party right to bear arms Second Amendment Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    What does all that even mean?
    He's complaining about personal attacks and then calling male liberals "women." (a word he defines as a sort of insult)

    All the while completely ignoring the entirely non-personal and non-insulting conversation going on.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Redding California Tea Party right to bear arms Second Amendment Rally

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    It's all good, you can only surf internet porn for so long....
    Does not compute.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Redding California Tea Party right to bear arms Second Amendment Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Fighting for their right to stalk and kill. How pathetic.
    stalking and murdering is illegal, and punishable by life in prison or death in some states.

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    Re: Redding California Tea Party right to bear arms Second Amendment Rally

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    It's all good, you can only surf internet porn for so long....
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    Re: Redding California Tea Party right to bear arms Second Amendment Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Fighting for their right to stalk and kill. How pathetic.
    Kill?

    No it's the gangbangers that are doing all the killing - not patriots.

    One would have to be incredibly stupid to even suggest the tea party patriots do drive-by's or shoot at random people just to make a point like the democrat gangbangers do.

    These people are patriots - we defend civil liberties - we don't kill anyone unless someone comes looking to be killed.

    Oh not to mention, 90% of these people if given a situation of justifiable homicide, wouldn't even pull the trigger.

    The last thing I would ever want to do is kill another human.

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    Re: Redding California Tea Party right to bear arms Second Amendment Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The problem with this debate is right there in the video. "No new gun laws." These people don't care what the law is, they oppose it. They've rejected even the pretense of rational discussion. "No new gun laws." Because apparently existing gun laws are perfect?
    Q: How many laws does it take before they will be "perfect"?

    A: Zero.

    Why?: Because criminals ignore the law which means the only people being affected by gun laws are innocent people.
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    Re: Redding California Tea Party right to bear arms Second Amendment Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Every law circumvents our rights. You're making a meaningless distinction.
    Really? How does the laws against murder circumvent our rights? It doesn't. It protects our rights.
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    Re: Redding California Tea Party right to bear arms Second Amendment Rally

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    EO's don't require Congressional approval, Nor are they Laws. Only Congress can pass laws so if we get any gun ban laws it's on Congress.
    EO's may not be laws, but they have the power of law.
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