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    Re: Private sales at gun show on hold after three hurt in accidental shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Ooooh, snap! I have yet to meet a libertarian, online or in reality, who can accept or understand real history, the tale of things past that helps us deal with the modern world. Every time someone notes the fallacy of their philosophy, their only rejoinder is "You apparently don't know a damn thing about libertarianism..."
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    Re: Private sales at gun show on hold after three hurt in accidental shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    I am arguing that there is a small percentage that cannot be trusted. You are misinterpreting it to mean the whole.
    No, I'm not at all. At no point did I force anyone to rope their guns because of a few stupid people. YOU are defending the actions of the people that run the gun shows in where they show that they do not trust the owners of the guns to act responsibly. I am not mistaking anything. You are giving the exact same excuse to defend the people that run the gun shows that some liberals give in order to defend the idea we can't trust people with assault weapons and 30 round clips.

    Again, think before you insult all liberals as you have done in this thread. Because it makes you look silly to dismiss an entire group as stupid and then show that you actually believe in their reasoning.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Private sales at gun show on hold after three hurt in accidental shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    All it means is that certain people need mental exams and possibly institutionalized if they are so brainwashed to believe that Obama or any democrat is a dictator in the making.
    Pete, it's not about dictatorship... it's about removing the ability of the average American citizen to partake of a Right that many of us hold as dear, if not more dear than the Rights to Speech, Religion, the Press, and a fair Trial. It's about our ability to defend ourselves from enemies both foreign and domestic (whether they be governmental or individual).

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    These nutters are starting to scare me more than the career crackheads! Another testament as to why psychological evals would be a good thing for gun ownership. LOL!
    You do realize that any sort of limitation related to psychological evaluations would simply ensure that fewer people went for permits and the like; and that it would not actually take firearms out of the hands of these individuals, correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    So in your opinion a majority of those Americans who voted for Obama should be put away - well it would be one way of taking care of your paranoia I suppose
    Yes they should be put away, in one way or another. I've got a couple of potential options, but I'll be polite enough not to go into them at this time.

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    We aren't the ones that make you string a rope through your gun in order to go into a gun show. Seems like liberals aren't the only ones that don't trust you with your guns.
    Actually in a good number of cases you folks are; since in many places those rules are put in place by the States and other similar levels of Government.

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    Re: Private sales at gun show on hold after three hurt in accidental shooting

    The reactions of the anti's make me wonder how its possible we still build anything
    in America. I mean since hammers kill more people than assault rifles you'd think
    they'd have banned hammers by now - they don't even have a national hammer
    association to protect them.

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    Re: Private sales at gun show on hold after three hurt in accidental shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Oh yeah, also if we lived in your preferential society - your ass wouldn't even be posting right now considering there would be no internet.

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    Yeah, that must be the reason why American internet services are falling behind those found in other nations - because government control of public utilities is so inefficient
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    Both lists offer hyperbole and some bad history as justification for their points
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    Re: Private sales at gun show on hold after three hurt in accidental shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    The reactions of the anti's make me wonder how its possible we still build anything in America. I mean since hammers kill more people than assault rifles you'd think they'd have banned hammers by now - they don't even have a national hammer association to protect them.
    It's all about EMOTION over Common Sense, CalGun. People have an EMOTIONAL reaction to firearms. To a large degree the Liberals and the uninformed masses are scared of them. They are owned by people who distrust the government and who are more interested in their individual safety than the wellbeing of the thugs, muggers, and rapists they might use them against. They spend time, money, and energy learning to excell with these tools. Don't they understand that nobody is supposed to excell at anything in this country anymore? They use them to teach their children such horrific things as responsibility and self-control.

    Isn't it OBVIOUS that we need to get every gun out of the hands of private citizens when there are horrific things like that going on because of them?

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    Re: Private sales at gun show on hold after three hurt in accidental shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Actually in a good number of cases you folks are; since in many places those rules are put in place by the States and other similar levels of Government.
    Exactly what state has a law that you have to rope your gun at a gun show? I've never heard of that at all.

    Even then, apparently it's something that gun shows do regardless of the law, because they feel unsafe with responsible gun owners handling their own personal property. It's not all the evil liberals fault.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Private sales at gun show on hold after three hurt in accidental shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    security guard at a dayton show told me that they busted a guy for doing that. They have all sorts of cameras set up at those shows-mainly to prevent theft. when I questioned him he noted it has been reported before. I will try to find more next time I see him
    Ahhhh! all hearsay.
    My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who heard it from a security guard at the show.

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    Re: Private sales at gun show on hold after three hurt in accidental shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Exactly what state has a law that you have to rope your gun at a gun show? I've never heard of that at all.

    Even then, apparently it's something that gun shows do regardless of the law, because they feel unsafe with responsible gun owners handling their own personal property. It's not all the evil liberals fault.

    Yeah funny that. The gun owners for some reason feel that it is their right to carry weapons everywhere they wish except when they get together at a place where there really are a lot of guns.

    Why doesn't their belief in the Second Amendment's granting unlimited rights on not only gun ownership but gun carrying extend into gun shows? Why should a 'trained and responsible' gun owner have to give up his rights in a place that is supposedly all about extending said rights? If those gun owners are willing to give up their rights in order to attend a gun show, why can't they understand that other Americans have the right to ask the same of the gun owners as the gun show operators ask? - give up your Second Amendment rights to enter a place where people demand it of you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    Ahhhh! all hearsay.
    My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who heard it from a security guard at the show.
    And you better not dare question it or ask for verifiable evidence either.
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