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    Re: Private sales at gun show on hold after three hurt in accidental shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    So in your opinion a majority of those Americans who voted for Obama should be put away - well it would be one way of taking care of your paranoia I suppose
    Obama voters are too stupid to be "put away."

    They deserve mercy not punishment... But I suppose if we have to lock them up on charges of treason so-be-it.

    Progressives want to re-write the Bill of Rights - factoring in that why should a progressive be granted civil liberties? It seems the only time progressives give a damn about civil liberties is when they apply to them...

    You either take them all or you get none....

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    Re: Private sales at gun show on hold after three hurt in accidental shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the ones I go to they are pretty thorough checking bags and all weapons-can someone smuggle in a loaded weapon-yes. can someone buy a box of ammo or bring one in and covertly load a displayed gun-yes

    another show they rope every gun coming in-you know put a piece of rope through the muzzle and out the action
    If guns are perfectly safe in a responsible gun owner's hands, why even go through this? I always thought that the right wing's answer to gun violence was more guns and concealed carry of loaded weapons... Why do these people feel that you need to be able to carry a loaded weapon everywhere except for a gun show?

    Just curious. From hearing you guys talk you would think that you guys would all the loaded guns you could squeeze in to those places, and they'd be the safest places on earth.
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Private sales at gun show on hold after three hurt in accidental shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    The real paranoia comes from the anti gunners who are terrified that their law abiding neighbors cannot be trusted to own the same guns we have owned for 50+ years
    We aren't the ones that make you string a rope through your gun in order to go into a gun show. Seems like liberals aren't the only ones that don't trust you with your guns.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Private sales at gun show on hold after three hurt in accidental shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    If guns are perfectly safe in a responsible gun owner's hands, why even go through this? I always thought that the right wing's answer to gun violence was more guns and concealed carry of loaded weapons... Why do these people feel that you need to be able to carry a loaded weapon everywhere except for a gun show?

    Just curious. From hearing you guys talk you would think that you guys would all the loaded guns you could squeeze in to those places, and they'd be the safest places on earth.
    Like all walks of life, there are some from any "grouping" that act stupidly. Sometimes they are just stupid, other times they have momentary lapses of judgment. Heck, some gun owners are no smarter than a Liberal, some are even Liberals.
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    Re: Private sales at gun show on hold after three hurt in accidental shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Obama voters are too stupid to be "put away."

    They deserve mercy not punishment... But I suppose if we have to lock them up on charges of treason so-be-it.

    Progressives want to re-write the Bill of Rights - factoring in that why should a progressive be granted civil liberties? It seems the only time progressives give a damn about civil liberties is when they apply to them...

    You either take them all or you get none....

    This is not a reply of a "libertarian" but rather one from an authoritarian - a rather common failing I find among many who claim the title of "Libertarian"

    Not unexpected from someone who claims to be a fictional character from a really poorly written novel, a fantasy tale written by one of those "moochers and takers"

    “There are two novels that can transform a bookish 14-year-old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish daydream that can lead to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood in which large chunks of the day are spent inventing ways to make real life more like a fantasy novel. The other is a book about orcs.”

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    Re: Private sales at gun show on hold after three hurt in accidental shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Like all walks of life, there are some from any "grouping" that act stupidly. Sometimes they are just stupid, other times they have momentary lapses of judgment. Heck, some gun owners are no smarter than a Liberal, some are even Liberals.
    And? So what you're arguing is that because there are some stupid people in every group, you just can't trust people with their own guns?

    Do you realize that's what you're arguing? Or did you not even think before responding?

    And to think, you're insulting liberals, lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Private sales at gun show on hold after three hurt in accidental shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    This is not a reply of a "libertarian" but rather one from an authoritarian - a rather common failing I find among many who claim the title of "Libertarian"

    Not unexpected from someone who claims to be a fictional character from a really poorly written novel, a fantasy tale written by one of those "moochers and takers"
    Yeah right, I have absolutely no desire to live your life , nor do I believe the government should play a role in it - I could care less about you and I believe it is up to you to take care of you - not the flipping government.

    You apparently don't know a damn thing about libertarianism.....

    You have a lot of learning to do.
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    Re: Private sales at gun show on hold after three hurt in accidental shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Yeah right, I have absolutely no desire to live your life - I could care less about you.

    You apparently don't know a damn thing about libertarianism.....

    You have a lot of learning to do.


    Ooooh, snap! I have yet to meet a libertarian, online or in reality, who can accept or understand real history, the tale of things past that helps us deal with the modern world. Every time someone notes the fallacy of their philosophy, their only rejoinder is "You apparently don't know a damn thing about libertarianism..."
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Private sales at gun show on hold after three hurt in accidental shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Ooooh, snap! I have yet to meet a libertarian, online or in reality, who can accept or understand real history, the tale of things past that helps us deal with the modern world. Every time someone notes the fallacy of their philosophy, their only rejoinder is "You apparently don't know a damn thing about libertarianism..."
    What the **** does that mean?

    I'm extremely educated in history. I've been a history buff my entire life - since I was like 5.

    I don't even understand how you concocted such a mess of an argument...

    Don't even pretend to act like your little immature butt knows my belief structure... Age a little more and maybe you will have some sort of an understanding.

    Besides, I wouldn't expect a wanna be socialist to understand collectivism from individualism.

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    Re: Private sales at gun show on hold after three hurt in accidental shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    And? So what you're arguing is that because there are some stupid people in every group, you just can't trust people with their own guns?

    Do you realize that's what you're arguing? Or did you not even think before responding?

    And to think, you're insulting liberals, lol.
    I am arguing that there is a small percentage that cannot be trusted. You are misinterpreting it to mean the whole. Some, from your side, have argued that only a few abuse Welfare and that we shouldn't group all welfarist into the same category. The same holds true in all groupings. No one should punish the whole for the actions of a few. If we took that kind of attitude on everything, we would have to ban cars, bar-B-que grills and many other things. More people are killed each year through the misuse of cars than the misuse of guns.
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