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    Re: GOP official: House to vote to lift debt limit

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Because changing the subject is what posters do when they've been pwned
    The subject is cutting spending right? So me pointing out that year over year spending increases are not spending cuts is changing the subject? I think I remember now why I dont waste much time responding to your posts.

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    Re: GOP official: House to vote to lift debt limit

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Exactly, while the GOP was complaining about spending, and 90 Democrats voted against it, the GOP unanimously voted for spending $630 billion dollars on the military industrial complex in 2013, almost as much as the rest of the world combined!
    It was passed in the Senate unanimously first. Not that Im disagreeing with the point.

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    Re: GOP official: House to vote to lift debt limit

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    A spending freeze would also help

    Keep spending at 2013 levels for 10 years and the budget, assuming 2-3% GDP growth on average would most likely dissappear in 10 years


    Only in the dreams of some group that doesn't understand economics. All projections of the 'zero increase in spending' proposal show devastating economic results. A nation isn't a family so comparing personal actions to those of a nation is a major failure to grasp economic reality.
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    Re: GOP official: House to vote to lift debt limit

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    So tell Me with all these "cuts" that you claim have been made ... why has the deficit stayed at over a trillion dollars ??

    Uh, a poor economy that is recovering more slowly than it would be if there hadn't been so much obstructionism by one of the parties.
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    Re: GOP official: House to vote to lift debt limit

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Only in the dreams of some group that doesn't understand economics. All projections of the 'zero increase in spending' proposal show devastating economic results. A nation isn't a family so comparing personal actions to those of a nation is a major failure to grasp economic reality.
    As opposed to the devestating economics results we are having with the current system of borrow and spend?

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    Re: GOP official: House to vote to lift debt limit

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Uh, a poor economy that is recovering more slowly than it would be if there hadn't been so much obstructionism by one of the parties.
    No, it would be because both the President and the obstuctionism party both proposed budgets which has trillion dollar deficits for the next 10 years. No one is interested in balancing the budget.

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    Re: GOP official: House to vote to lift debt limit

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    In fact more people are in food stamps than ever before, unemployment has not improved, the infrastructure is crumbling and the debt is increasing by over $3 billion a day, with nothing to show for it.

    That's progress, huh?

    Economy has not improved as rapidly as it could have with more stimulus spending

    Unemployment has improved if you count from the days when it hit its peak in Feb 2010 and not from Inauguration Day in 2009;

    The infrastructure is crumbling but all we hear from the GOP is "cut spending". Tell us - how do you repair, renovate and improve American infrastructure without paying for it?

    As noted earlier, America's economy is doing better than the rest of the industrialised world, so there is "something to show for it"
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    Re: GOP official: House to vote to lift debt limit

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    As opposed to the devestating economics results we are having with the current system of borrow and spend?

    You are showing a lack of knowledge of economics on a national scale. Did you complain about the deficit spending during the period from 2001 to 2009?
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    Re: GOP official: House to vote to lift debt limit

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    No, it would be because both the President and the obstuctionism party both proposed budgets which has trillion dollar deficits for the next 10 years. No one is interested in balancing the budget.

    People are 'interested' but those who are capable of grasping the complexities of the modern world, for the most part, understand that an immediate "balancing of the national budget" would result in a depression worse than that experienced in the 1930s
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    Re: GOP official: House to vote to lift debt limit

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Did you complain about the deficit spending during the period from 2001 to 2009?
    Well to be fair while there are hypocrites who are complaining about the spending under Obama now that didn't under Bush, there are also hypocrites that complained about spending under Bush that aren't now that Obama is doing it.

    There are hypocrites on all sides.

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