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    Re: GOP official: House to vote to lift debt limit

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Thanks for admitting that there have been cuts!!
    What cuts? From what I understand, there are never any real year over year reductions in spending, but rather reductions in projected increases. A spending cut would be spending less this year than we did last year. I dont see either party attempting to do this.

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    Re: GOP official: House to vote to lift debt limit

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    How about before they vote to authorize all that spending?



    And to think it was just a few short months ago that repubs were criticizing Obama for cutting Medicare spending by several hundred billion

    How quickly they forget
    There were no cuts. Obama counted savings (decreased future spending) through reforms as a result of Obamacare, but then "spent" that savings on Obamacare. But spending for HHS has increased by 200bn a year since Obama took office. Overall spending has risen by 800bn a year since Obama took office.

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    Re: GOP official: House to vote to lift debt limit

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    It is their job to be childish?

    You can put on your partisan blinders and blame the Democrats for all the ills you want, but the facts are not in your favor.

    Yes the Dems in the Senate should have put forward a budget and let it get shot down and expose the GOP.. of course they dont have the balls to do that. And even if they by some sort of miracle did put up a budget, the chances are it will never ever make it to the floor because of GOP obstructionism and if it did make it past the GOP obstructionism in the Senate, it would surely fail in the house if there was one tax rise or the military budget was cut. So what is the freaking point in wasting resources and energy in even trying? Just look at the fiscal cliff... do you really think that any sort of sane budget would get past the Tea Party fanatics in the house?

    The main problem is the Tea Party fanatics, followed by the GOP in general and then Democrats in general. I suspect if there was no Tea Party, then the GOP and Dems could much easier figure things out.
    The Law says President Obama must submit a budget.

    Budget and Accounting Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    He did try it once.

    Obama budget defeated 99-0 in Senate - Washington Times

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    Re: GOP official: House to vote to lift debt limit

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    There were no cuts. Obama counted savings (decreased future spending) through reforms as a result of Obamacare, but then "spent" that savings on Obamacare. But spending for HHS has increased by 200bn a year since Obama took office. Overall spending has risen by 800bn a year since Obama took office.
    The debt under Obama has increased by well over $1,000,000,000,000 per year and this report from the GAO should concern everyone.

    U.S. GAO - Financial Audit: U.S. Government's Fiscal Years 2012 and 2011 Consolidated Financial Statements

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    Re: GOP official: House to vote to lift debt limit

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The debt under Obama has increased by well over $1,000,000,000,000 per year and this report from the GAO should concern everyone.

    U.S. GAO - Financial Audit: U.S. Government's Fiscal Years 2012 and 2011 Consolidated Financial Statements
    I wonder if Bush's two foolish wars and the near depression he caused has anything to do with it.

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    Re: GOP official: House to vote to lift debt limit

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    I wonder if Bush's two foolish wars and the near depression he caused has anything to do with it.
    All that can be done is to deal with the now, not the past.

    It's clear that Obama isn't up to the job and never was.Still trying to blame his predecessor after this late date only serves to highlight his incompetence.

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    Re: GOP official: House to vote to lift debt limit

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    What cuts? From what I understand, there are never any real year over year reductions in spending, but rather reductions in projected increases. A spending cut would be spending less this year than we did last year. I dont see either party attempting to do this.
    Changing the subject from "spending cuts" to "real year over year reductions in spending" is proof that you've been pwned
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    Re: GOP official: House to vote to lift debt limit

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    All that can be done is to deal with the now, not the past.

    It's clear that Obama isn't up to the job and never was.Still trying to blame his predecessor after this late date only serves to highlight his incompetence.

    The way to deal with a near Depression and foolish tax cuts for billionaires is not to cut spending on poor kids, education and infrastructure but increase it, and raise taxes on the rich.

    That's what Obama did and it worked. Our economy is only major economy in the west that's growing at a good pace. The rest went the austerity route and now are in double dip recessions or barely pulling .5% GDP growth.

    I'm sure glad he didn't listen to you.

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    Re: GOP official: House to vote to lift debt limit

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    The way to deal with a near Depression and foolish tax cuts for billionaires is not to cut spending on poor kids, education and infrastructure but increase it, and raise taxes on the rich.

    That's what Obama did and it worked. Our economy is only major economy in the west that's growing at a good pace. The rest went the austerity route and now are in double dip recessions or barely pulling .5% GDP growth.

    I'm sure glad he didn't listen to you.
    In fact more people are in food stamps than ever before, unemployment has not improved, the infrastructure is crumbling and the debt is increasing by over $3 billion a day, with nothing to show for it.

    That's progress, huh?

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    Re: GOP official: House to vote to lift debt limit

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Changing the subject from "spending cuts" to "real year over year reductions in spending" is proof that you've been pwned
    How do you figure that?

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