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    Re: Southwestern Pa. hospital to stop baby deliveries

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Again, under socialism they would just do it because the are there to do it. What you are talking about is capitalism.
    Not real capitalism, regulated capitalism. It has far more in common with socialism than with unfettered capitalism.
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    Re: Southwestern Pa. hospital to stop baby deliveries

    Two hundred births a year isn't enough to maintain a safe service, keeping updated and dealing with the out of the ordinary is difficult with only one birth every other day. It's also too few to support training places.
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    Re: Southwestern Pa. hospital to stop baby deliveries

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Socialist care is wonderful isn't it?

    Lowers costs and improves service. Not.

    A distant government that knows nothing about business or your community knows best. Trust them. They've done miracles... like adding 16 trillion in debt, and 60 trillion in unfunded mandates... and have been busy slashing debt like butchers ROTFLOL... Now they're just beginning to sink their teeth into their decades long dream of Socialist health-kare. Oh... I'm just overjoyed by the prospects... aren't you?
    Why are you assuming this will be a problem? They will still provide emergency care for those who don't plan ahead. That's the law. Every hospital doesn't have to do everything. That's part of our problem, in my opinion. I live in suburban Chicago. I have three major hospitals within three miles of my home.
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    Re: Southwestern Pa. hospital to stop baby deliveries

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Not real capitalism, regulated capitalism. It has far more in common with socialism than with unfettered capitalism.
    It is still capitalism. It is not socialism. Broken capitalism cannot be said to be socialism working as intended. It is dishonest and wrong to make any claim it is.

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    Re: Southwestern Pa. hospital to stop baby deliveries

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Government mandating that services must be rendered regardless of the ability to pay is not Capitalism. Capitalism would be all hospitals not publicly funding being able to kick leeches and moochers out the doors with nothing provided.

    Personally, I like what they are doing. We should have a lot more hospitals/clinics/doctors close their emergency rooms (common way for uninsured to enter the system) and refuse to accept Medicaid. We would see a drastic drop in healthcare costs once all the leeches and moochers are out of the system.
    Capitalism would be allowing people to die bleeding because they're too poor to be saved, yes.

    Government mandating that services must be rendered regardless of the ability to pay isn't socialism either because that isn't what socialism means.
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    Re: Southwestern Pa. hospital to stop baby deliveries

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Why are you assuming this will be a problem? They will still provide emergency care for those who don't plan ahead. That's the law. Every hospital doesn't have to do everything. That's part of our problem, in my opinion. I live in suburban Chicago. I have three major hospitals within three miles of my home.
    Read the OP and why they stopped. The stopped because of ObamaKare.

    Study Canada's system, or Europe's. That's where we are headed... not improving... decaying.

    There's a book out there called Code Blue... written by a Canadian who knows both the old US system and Canada's pathetic version of healthcare. Read it, or at least some article by the author.

    I know the Canadian and some EU systems... as well as the US. Weez be farked... this is only the beginning.

    Maggie... remember this day, and think back to it in 10-years, 15-years and 30-years should we not destroy ObamaKare.
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    Re: Southwestern Pa. hospital to stop baby deliveries

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Capitalism would be allowing people to die bleeding because they're too poor to be saved, yes.

    Government mandating that services must be rendered regardless of the ability to pay isn't socialism either because that isn't what socialism means.
    I didn't call it socialism, I called it regulated capitalism which has a lot in common with socialism. Both are progressive in nature until in one, socialism, the government owns it or regulated capitalism, the government doesn't out-right own it, but controls all aspects of it.

    If someone, other than children, haven't done what is necessary to earn the benefit of healthcare, yep, don't care if they are denied. If you want it, earn it.
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    Re: Southwestern Pa. hospital to stop baby deliveries

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    You seem to be mistaking socialism with capitalism. The do not make money delivering babies so they are going to stop. If it were state controlled they would be there because that is a service hospitals provide.
    Whatever you do, I hope the government steps in and reduces you to subsistence level. Beans, rice and water for you. You can take public transport and live in a government sanctioned cave... because otherwise you are making a profit on the backs of others.

    Do you know how miserably government controlled healthcare has failed? Obviously not, and my bet is you have no interest to learn. You simply gobble the goop shoveled to you by The Goebbels Propaganda Machine.

    Having read a number of your posts... you're a lost cause. A typical Obamatron.
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    Re: Southwestern Pa. hospital to stop baby deliveries

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Socialist care is wonderful isn't it?

    Lowers costs and improves service. Not.

    A distant government that knows nothing about business or your community knows best. Trust them. They've done miracles... like adding 16 trillion in debt, and 60 trillion in unfunded mandates... and have been busy slashing debt like butchers ROTFLOL... Now they're just beginning to sink their teeth into their decades long dream of Socialist health-kare. Oh... I'm just overjoyed by the prospects... aren't you?
    Many hospitals closed their OB services in the late 1980s and the 1990s.. has NOTHING to do with Obama or socialism.

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    Re: Southwestern Pa. hospital to stop baby deliveries

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    I didn't call it socialism, I called it regulated capitalism which has a lot in common with socialism. Both are progressive in nature until in one, socialism, the government owns it or regulated capitalism, the government doesn't out-right own it, but controls all aspects of it.

    If someone, other than children, haven't done what is necessary to earn the benefit of healthcare, yep, don't care if they are denied. If you want it, earn it.
    Hahaha ok buddy. If you like such an environment may I suggest Somalia? Quite libertarian, that place.

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