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    Re: Obama unveils $500 million gun violence package

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Tea Party Occupied Congress banned studying gun violence, because they know it would result in the conclusion that we must restrict gun ownership.
    They know that it is irrelevent since no amendment to the Constitution would survive a vote nor ratification. But keep the dream alive, buddy.
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    Re: Obama unveils $500 million gun violence package

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    It's not a disease.
    But all other injuries are?
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    Re: Obama unveils $500 million gun violence package

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    On a positive note, Obama has finally nominated a director of the ATF.
    The ATF should be disbanded.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Obama unveils $500 million gun violence package

    Quote Originally Posted by StringBean View Post
    Universal background checks--this essentially ends private sales no?

    Wouldn't have stopped Sandy Hook--the guns were his mother's and she passed her background check with flying colors.

    Assault weapons ban--quoting Regan is always a powerful way to stick it to gunhawks.

    All in all, using children as a shameless emotional appeal really does sicken me. Preach your recommendations on merit, Mr. President.
    To your first point, you're wrong. You can already privately sell your firearm through an FFL (as anyone who has sold online is fully aware of). This should be a federal law (and has broad support). As to your second point, addressing mental health in this country and talking openly about it does address what transpired at Sandy Hook. And finally your last point really highlights the truth in this debate (though not directly). Conservatives don't believe in any regulation on gun control. Feel free to vilify the President. But to suggest that he is merely capitalizing on an event and not following through with his true beliefs is very misguided.

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    Re: Obama unveils $500 million gun violence package

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    None of what he proposes would have stopped Sandy Hook.

    None of it.

    So its just the liberal slimery using the blood of 27 innocent victims to perpetuate a long standing liberal dream.

    To disarm or attempt to disarm the American public.
    None of what was proposed would have stopped Sandy Hook but you think it disarms you?
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    Re: Obama unveils $500 million gun violence package

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The ATF should be disbanded.
    It's a strange thing to have around seeing as how all three are legal under most circumstances.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Obama unveils $500 million gun violence package

    It should be noted that giving money to communities to help keep police officers on the payroll is meaningless. They will only be around until the money runs out and then they will be cut due to not having the money to keep them. Nothing more than a waste of money. This includes giving money to schools to hire security. In order to keep those people hired and doing their job they have to have constant revenue. Everyone with even a 1 brain cell knows that this money will not be constant.

    Providing money to the CDC to find the causes of violent behavior is a good idea...but again you're going to run into money troubles.

    The rest of Obama's proposal would not have stopped the Sandy Hook shooting. The guns that the mother had were bought legally and with a full back ground check. The kid stole them from her. Sure the mother might have been able to condemn him to some institute but if he had any brains he could have faked his way out. It wouldn't be the first time nor the last. Thats the problem with the system. You have to convince someone else that the person should be institutionalized and that is no easy thing to do if the person in question is intelligent.

    As for requiring background checks for private gun sales? Good luck keeping that from being ruled unconstitutional in front of SCOTUS. Just as abortion was legalized due to privacy the requirment of a background check from private sellers is a violation of a persons privacy.
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    Re: Obama unveils $500 million gun violence package

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It's a strange thing to have around seeing as how all three are legal under most circumstances.
    Government control, government databasing and watching and monitoring...that's all it is. Big Brother, he's here to protect us.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Obama unveils $500 million gun violence package

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    It's not a disease.
    Their mission includes more than just literal diseases. It also includes injury and disability.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Obama unveils $500 million gun violence package

    I love how its okay for him to use our children for a political agenda when the NRA mentions his they have crossed the line and are the cowardly ones. Ha!

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