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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Islamic terorrism is an international problem but not every follower of Islam is an Islamic terrorist.
    If the average Muslim moderates are not willing to stand up and demand that Muslim Brotherhood influence be purged from Muslim organizations, then the radicals win, no matter how few their numbers.

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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    What is your solution to the problem?
    Over the years this has been the crux.

    Guys like Marsden and Grant won't openly say it but it's pretty obvious they have an intense dislike for muslims, they say things that pretty much spell out that they believe that even if most muslims aren't actively violent, most of them passively support the violence.

    When you confront them on this though they will deny it.

    So they think there's a muslim problem...

    Then you ask "What's your solution"

    and they freeze up.

    Never... not once... even from the hardest of the hardcore muslim haters that used to be at DP NEVER have they answered that question...

    Actually that's not true, one person did.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/religi...post1058829959

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    I say we make earth a muslim free zone.

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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    lol using Algeria as your example that gun control doesnt work is clutching at straws.
    So the rules are I can only use the few countries where gun control works, and ignore the vast majority of countries where gun control does not work.

    Makes perfect sense

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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    You are ignoring the impact of decades of American and European interference in middle eastern affairs which includes deposing democratically elected leaders, assassinations, bribery, and political and financial support of brutal dictators that got rich by impoverishing their countries. One reason the Islamists have flourished in recent years is that many of the USA supported dictators were more tolerant of religious organizations, even those with extremist views, than they were of any form of political dissent. Add to the mix our unwarranted bombings, invasions and occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq and the extra-judicial incarcerations, torture and murders and it is little wonder why those who hate the west may be gaining influence.
    I appreciate you adding some rational considerations to the Muslim hate fest going on here.
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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Oh, ok. That's very insightful.
    Still waiting on your solution.

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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

    We're still having these debates? It's not 2005 anymore.

    On a similar note, I don't know if you guys have been following the Mali incursions but it's quite clear that all this talk of "Islamism" is a great way to filter the advancement of imperial interests through the media into a legitimate pill that the public can easily digest.

    Resistance movement fighting against the government affecting your natural resources? Call them Al Qa'ida and say you're going there to fight "the Islamist threat". Make some vague fearmongering point about how they could use that country as a "jumping off point" to target "the West" and voila, instant support.
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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

    Quote Originally Posted by marsden View Post
    If the average Muslim moderates are not willing to stand up and demand that Muslim Brotherhood influence be purged from Muslim organizations, then the radicals win, no matter how few their numbers.
    Putting it in large font doesn't make your point any better or any more wrong. There is more to it, but you are quite happy complaining from your nice place of residence or work in relative safety to say it.

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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I appreciate you adding some rational considerations to the Muslim hate fest going on here.
    Actually, if you take the time to listen to what the current President of Egypt has to say you'll see that this "hate fest" is only coming from one direction.

    Morsi in 2010: No to Negotiations with "the Descendants of Apes and Pigs"; Boycott US Products - YouTube

    Where is your evidence of this Muslim hate fest? Please use quotes.

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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

    Quote Originally Posted by hawke812 View Post
    So the rules are I can only use the few countries where gun control works, and ignore the vast majority of countries where gun control does not work.

    Makes perfect sense
    you can use who you want but It would make more sense to me to use western, civilised countries as your example rather than violent muslim countries. But hey if you want to compare your country to a North African **** hole then go for it.
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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Actually, if you take the time to listen to what the current President of Egypt has to say you'll see that this "hate fest" is only coming from one direction.

    Morsi in 2010: No to Negotiations with "the Descendants of Apes and Pigs"; Boycott US Products - YouTube

    Where is your evidence of this Muslim hate fest? Please use quotes.

    Its most of the thread, here is the most recent:

    "Actually, if you take the time to listen to what the current President of Egypt has to say you'll see that this "hate fest" is only coming from one direction."
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