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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    British SAS, US Seal Team 6, German Spec Forces, Israeli Spec Forces all would have handled it better. Sending in helicopter gunships against a convoy was not a smart move. Not precise enough when hostages are mixed in with terrorists.

    On the other hand, at least the Algerians made a move. They had to move faster than anyone would want to because the facilities had been set afire. The whole facility was getting ready to blow up. They had little time to plan carefully, they just had move right away. On top of it, we don't know how many hostages the terrorists executed as the last attack began. The best counter terrorist unit in the world can't do anything about it if terrorists outright kill the hostages before they can be rescued.
    The Algerians didn't give a damn about the hostages - they simply wanted to kill the terrorists. Any time you have a 'hostage rescue' where more hostages die than bad guys, you've got a master cluster.....

    They could have recruited experts on this from the West - people experienced in this sort of stuff - but they chose the always effective full frontal assault. Great for eventually killing the hostage takers. Not so great if you actually give a damn about the hostages.

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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You're right, they aren't deflections. They are out and out fallacies.
    While I am sure randomly yelling accusations at people has it, s place in the world, it doesn't make for the most convincing argument.

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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

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    I beg to differ
    Differ all you want. The fact is that I never called any person dumb....You seem to have a problem reading.
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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    What's funny is I only partially disagreed with him, yet he lashes out with a full frontal assault. Reading: it's fundamental.
    He took the Algerian army approach.
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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    While I am sure randomly yelling accusations at people has it, s place in the world, it doesn't make for the most convincing argument.
    Who's yelling? not me.
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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    He took the Algerian army approach.
    Correctamundo!
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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    They could have recruited experts on this from the West - people experienced in this sort of stuff - but they chose the always effective full frontal assault. Great for eventually killing the hostage takers. Not so great if you actually give a damn about the hostages.

    Official: 'Numerous' other bodies at Algeria plant - Yahoo! News

    How does this statement from you square with Eagle's statement here:

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye
    They had to move faster than anyone would want to because the facilities had been set afire. The whole facility was getting ready to blow up. They had little time to plan carefully, they just had move right away.
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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You're right, they aren't deflections. They are out and out fallacies.
    Predators are not fallacies. They do exist. Here's a picture of one.

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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    How does this statement from you square with Eagle's statement here:
    On the fourth day, yeah they ran out of time. They had to act, and I give them credit for being decisive when they had to be.

    But this drama played out over 4 days. They should have called in the US/Britain in on the first or second day. This would've pulled in the best hostage rescuers you can get. I think some hostages still would've died (terrorists might still have executed the hostages), but there would have been far fewer losses. I'm trying to be fair to the Algerian Special Forces. They could've handled things better. At the same time, they deserve credit for acting quickly when things spiraled out of control when the facility was set afire.
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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Al-Q is a Saudi-sponsored franchise
    Hahaha. Go back to the CT forum, geopolitics is not your strong point.

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