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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
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    You are ignoring the impact of decades of American and European interference in middle eastern affairs which includes deposing democratically elected leaders, assassinations, bribery, and political and financial support of brutal dictators that got rich by impoverishing their countries. One reason the Islamists have flourished in recent years is that many of the USA supported dictators were more tolerant of religious organizations, even those with extremist views, than they were of any form of political dissent. Add to the mix our unwarranted bombings, invasions and occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq and the extra-judicial incarcerations, torture and murders and it is little wonder why those who hate the west may be gaining influence.



    You are not understanding my point. The USA and Europe has deposed and assasinated democratically elected leaders, and influenced their elections with funding, disinformation and dirty tricks. If you are not aware of such activities I suggest you read some books on the history of the CIA such as Legacy of Ashes. The distrust and hatred of the west in the Muslim world is very much influenced by this history of interference, only some of which was at the request of the governments in power. The governments of Libya, Syria, Yemen, Iraq and Afghanistan certainly did not invite western involvement in recent years.
    Do you seriously believe that the Islamists attacked in Mali because of European/American/Middle Eastern history?

    Why make excuse for them that they themselves don't articulate?

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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

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    Still more ad hom!! How very tiresome this gets.
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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

    The Western governments need to face up to the fact that many of these fighters are on a stipend from Saudi Wahhabists.
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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

    Looks like the whole thing is over now. Algerian forces were a bit heavy-handed (Algerian gunships apparently killed hostages as well as terrorists), but on the other hand it's over with quickly. Algerian Special Forces had to charge in because the facility had been set afire.

    ALGIERS, Algeria (AP) — In a bloody finale, Algerian special forces stormed a natural gas complex in the Sahara desert on Saturday to end a standoff with Islamist extremists that left at least 23 hostages dead and killed all 32 militants involved, the Algerian government said.
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    "To avoid a bloody turn of events in response to the extreme danger of the situation, the army's special forces launched an intervention with efficiency and professionalism to neutralize the terrorist groups that were first trying to flee with the hostages and then blow up the gas facilities," Algeria's Interior Ministry said in a statement about the standoff.

    Immediately after the assault, French President Francois Hollande gave his backing to Algeria's tough tactics, saying they were "the most adapted response to the crisis."

    "There could be no negotiations" with terrorists, the French media quoted him as saying in the central French city of Tulle.
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    A total of 685 Algerian and 107 foreigner workers were freed over the course of the four-day standoff, the ministry statement said, adding that the group of militants that attacked the remote Saharan natural gas complex consisted of 32 men of various nationalities, including three Algerians and explosives experts.
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    On Thursday, Algerian helicopters kicked off the military's first assault on the complex by opening fire on a convoy carrying both kidnappers and their hostages to stop them from escaping, resulting in many deaths, according to witnesses.

    The accounts of hostages who escaped the standoff showed they faced dangers from both the kidnappers and the military.

    Ruben Andrada, 49, a Filipino civil engineer who works as one of the project management staff for the Japanese company JGC Corp., described how he and his colleagues were used as human shields by the kidnappers, which did little to deter the Algerian military.

    On Thursday, about 35 hostages guarded by 15 militants were loaded into seven SUVs in a convoy to move them from the housing complex to the refinery, Andrada said. The militants placed "an explosive cord" around their necks and were told it would detonate if they tried to run away, he said.

    "When we left the compound, there was shooting all around," Andrada said, as Algerian helicopters attacked with guns and missiles. "I closed my eyes. We were going around in the desert. To me, I left it all to fate."

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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    The Western governments need to face up to the fact that many of these fighters are on a stipend from Saudi Wahhabists.
    Face up to the fact? We're counting on it. Saudi Arabia has not hidden support for the rebels.

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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

    And in Algeria today, 23 innocents were killed by Muslims. The innocents, whom were guests of a religious group at an oil refinery, were killed by the Muslims after attempting to flee with their hosts from the aggressive Muslims.
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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    More ad hom from the leftists. When you can't debate the facts, attack the messenger!
    Oh, I didn't know that by not labeling every muslim on the planet a radical terrorist, that I'm a leftist. Thanks for the heads up.
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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Face up to the fact? We're counting on it. Saudi Arabia has not hidden support for the rebels.
    It's been the elephant in the room for the last ten years, but nobody will confront it. Al-Q is a Saudi-sponsored franchise, providing funding and skills training on an international basis to local entrepreneurs.
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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    What does that have to do with anything? There are all kinds of radicals out there who do all kinds of bad stuff but going after an entire class of people because of a single characteristic is unconscionable.

    The CT shooter and the guy that shot up the movie in Aurora were both white 20 something males. Should we go after all white 20 something males because they have a propensity to be psycho killers?
    Actually they were mentally ill. And in America we have been locking up the mentally ill who have committed no crime for centuries.
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    re: Dozens held after Islamists attack Algerian gas field!!!![W:280]

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    Originally Posted by Hard Truth
    You are ignoring the impact of decades of American and European interference in middle eastern affairs which includes deposing democratically elected leaders, assassinations, bribery, and political and financial support of brutal dictators that got rich by impoverishing their countries. One reason the Islamists have flourished in recent years is that many of the USA supported dictators were more tolerant of religious organizations, even those with extremist views, than they were of any form of political dissent. Add to the mix our unwarranted bombings, invasions and occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq and the extra-judicial incarcerations, torture and murders and it is little wonder why those who hate the west may be gaining influence.



    You are not understanding my point. The USA and Europe has deposed and assasinated democratically elected leaders, and influenced their elections with funding, disinformation and dirty tricks. If you are not aware of such activities I suggest you read some books on the history of the CIA such as Legacy of Ashes. The distrust and hatred of the west in the Muslim world is very much influenced by this history of interference, only some of which was at the request of the governments in power. The governments of Libya, Syria, Yemen, Iraq and Afghanistan certainly did not invite western involvement in recent years.
    You don't really have a point.
    Redneck, hillbilly, fundie, Bible thumper, cracker, split tails, geezer, loon, xenophobe, islamaphobe, and homophobe are not words of tolerance.

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