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ChrisL said:
Where do they find these idiot teachers from anyway? I mean, don't you think somebody who is supposedly intelligent enough to be a teacher would realize that her former "career" was going to catch up to her eventually? She should have just gone into another line of work. That would have been a smart move on her part. If she was really smart enough to be teaching kids, then she should have known this already.

If I had been in porno as a career, I wouldn't even consider being a teacher because I would know better.
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And where do bigots come from? This should never have been an issue. The fact that it IS an issue shows just how prudish and bigoted people are. What this woman did in her past is NOTHING. Making it out to be SOMETHING is just going to make those kids want more and see more, and perhaps even try experimenting earlier than they normally would have.
 
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Kal'Stang said:
All you're doing is making excuses.
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Again, since you're so supportive of this lady, try to get her a job in your local school district.
 
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Kal'Stang said:
So your kid would only be distracted by having seen someone have sex? Are YOU actually serious?



Yes I have. And sex is sex. Unless you're of the belief that everyone but those in a porno movie does the missionary style I doubt very seriously its that different. All you're doing is making excuses.
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Either you don't have any little boys, don't know how little boys (or even MEN for that matter), perhaps you yourself don't have "normal" reactions to such things, or you are just being a troll. Either way I'm done with this conversation. It is stupid, and I really don't care enough about this woman to care that she was fired, and I don't think it is unfair. Those are the breaks. :2wave:
 
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ChrisL said:
You can't control what is happening inside the mind of a 12-year-old boy, and having a teacher in class who they actually witnessed having sex and saw nude is going to be distracting. I don't care how much you deny that or try to justify it. Sorry, she is just not cut out for teaching children due to her past. That's life. Deal with it.
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You don't have to control the mind. Just the body and the mouth. The rest will follow. And you're acting like no child hasn't ever fantasized about their teacher before. I've never denied that it wouldn't be a distraction. But then again, any hot teacher is a distraction. The ONLY difference is that they've seen what this teacher can do. If you get another teacher to replace her and that teacher is again some HOT teacher what do you think is going to happen? Think the kid is just going to a studious student? You're fooling yourself if you think so. It will be the same amount of distraction.
 
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Have any of you even tried to watch one of her videos? This isn't 70s Farmer's Daughter porn, this is that new gen degrade the female as much as possible stomach turning crap. They choke her til tears are flowing and degrade her and she acts as if she likes it.

Nothing like learning empowerment from a teacher who you just saw begging to have more pain and humiliation heaped upon her by several men calling her bitch and whore and cumslut.
 
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ChrisL said:
Either you don't have any little boys, don't know how little boys (or even MEN for that matter), perhaps you yourself don't have "normal" reactions to such things, or you are just being a troll. Either way I'm done with this conversation. It is stupid, and I really don't care enough about this woman to care that she was fired, and I don't think it is unfair. Those are the breaks. :2wave:
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Puleeze. Just because I don't freak out at the thought of sex I'm not a man? I don't have a boy? (I do btw). I also remember my school days. I also remember getting my butt whooped when I disrespected a teacher and I remember getting paddled by the Principle for not paying attention in class. I remember a time when the ADULTS ran the school and not the students.

But hey, you go ahead and run off. You have already proven that you don't have a valid reason to be against this woman other than that she did that taboo subject of having sex on a video. *makes a sign to ward off evil*
 
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clownboy said:
Have any of you even tried to watch one of her videos? This isn't 70s Farmer's Daughter porn, this is that new gen degrade the female as much as possible stomach turning crap. They choke her til tears are flowing and degrade her and she acts as if she likes it.

Nothing like learning empowerment from a teacher who you just saw begging to have more pain and humiliation heaped upon her by several men calling her bitch and whore and cumslut.
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So what. Maybe if parents started BEING parents those kids wouldn't have found the video in the first place.
 
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Kal'Stang said:
Puleeze. Just because I don't freak out at the thought of sex I'm not a man? I don't have a boy? (I do btw). I also remember my school days. I also remember getting my butt whooped when I disrespected a teacher and I remember getting paddled by the Principle for not paying attention in class. I remember a time when the ADULTS ran the school and not the students.

But hey, you go ahead and run off. You have already proven that you don't have a valid reason to be against this woman other than that she did that taboo subject of having sex on a video. *makes a sign to ward off evil*
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Yeah, well this is the year 2013, not 1950. Teachers aren't allowed to use corporal punishment. Neither are parents for the most part. A lot of things that happened at school and at home back then would be considered child abuse today. Another part of life you have to deal with. Bratty disrespectful kids.
 
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Kal'Stang said:
So what. Maybe if parents started BEING parents those kids wouldn't have found the video in the first place.
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Oh c'mon, I know you want to defend your point, but no need to drift into unreality. All it takes is ONE clever kid in the class and every kid in the school knows. You know that, and if you weren't that clever kid in school you knew of one.

So, where do you draw the line? How about if it were goatse? **** porn? Diaper play? Or pretending to be a younger underage girl?

Again I ask, have you seen the porn she starred in?
 
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ChrisL said:
Yeah, well this is the year 2013, not 1950. Teachers aren't allowed to use corporal punishment. Neither are parents for the most part. A lot of things that happened at school and at home back then would be considered child abuse today. Another part of life you have to deal with. Bratty disrespectful kids.
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I agree on the teachers part. However I still will spank my child. (btw...I'm not THAT old...I was born in 1975)
 
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clownboy said:
Oh c'mon, I know you want to defend your point, but no need to drift into unreality. All it takes is ONE clever kid in the class and every kid in the school knows. You know that, and if you weren't that clever kid in school you knew of one.
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And all it takes is for that kid to get punished. I've seen lots of clever kids get punished time and again in many different schools. And last I knew we had these nice little programs for our computers and cell phones which prevent certain things from being seen.

clownboy said:
So, where do you draw the line? How about if it were goatse? **** porn? Diaper play? Or pretending to be a younger underage girl?

Again I ask, have you seen the porn she starred in?
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I draw the line at making parents BE parents.
 
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Kal'Stang said:
I agree on the teachers part. However I still will spank my child. (btw...I'm not THAT old...I was born in 1975)
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The key to succeeding in school is being able to pay attention to what is going on. If the boys are all thinking about their teacher in "compromising" situations, then they are NOT going to be learning, and that is really not their fault. It is natural for boys that age. That is why there are certain standards that teachers and other professionals must have and maintain in order to retain their job.

You and others might think that is unfair to this teacher and others like her, but that is what is best for the students who are what really matter.
 
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tessaesque said:
Certainly possible, but she'd need some reschooling if California's educational certifications are anything like those in Texas or Michigan (only states I'm familiar with). I truly hope she's able to find something that satisfies her and makes her proud of what she's become and accomplished.
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What an interesting way to phrase your point.
 
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ChrisL said:
The key to succeeding in school is being able to pay attention to what is going on. If the boys are all thinking about their teacher in "compromising" situations, then they are NOT going to be learning, and that is really not their fault. It is natural for boys that age. That is why there are certain standards that teachers and other professionals must have and maintain in order to retain their job.

You and others might think that is unfair to this teacher and others like her, but that is what is best for the students who are what really matter.
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Those boys will still not be paying attention to some teacher they think is HOT regardless if that teacher was in a porn movie or not. Yet they still manage to make it through school.
 
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Kal'Stang said:
And all it takes is for that kid to get punished. I've seen lots of clever kids get punished time and again in many different schools. And last I knew we had these nice little programs for our computers and cell phones which prevent certain things from being seen.
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Despite the fact that your clever kids are obviously not as clever as in my generation (born in 51), I know many junior high kids who have greater skills than their teachers or the district IT admins. For any kid with a tech brain these days the school and parental lock programs are a joke.

Not to mention the old adage about the foolishness of trying to close the barn door after the horses have fled or the impossibility of putting the genie back in the bottle. :mrgreen:

Kal'Stang said:
I draw the line at making parents BE parents.
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Me too, but you're either in that blind stage of parenthood (we all go through it) that assumes our kids aren't near as curious or resourceful as we were or you're in denial if you honestly believe your junior high school child isn't going to be exploring info that didn't come from you with their peers.
 
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Kal'Stang said:
Those boys will still not be paying attention to some teacher they think is HOT regardless if that teacher was in a porn movie or not. Yet they still manage to make it through school.
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More so than one they saw naked having sex. Face facts.
 
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clownboy said:
Despite the fact that your clever kids are obviously not as clever as in my generation (born in 51), I know many junior high kids who have greater skills than their teachers or the district IT admins. For any kid with a tech brain these days the school and parental lock programs are a joke.

Not to mention the old adage about the foolishness of trying to close the barn door after the horses have fled or the impossibility of putting the genie back in the bottle. :mrgreen:



Me too, but you're either in that blind stage of parenthood (we all go through it) that assumes our kids aren't near as curious or resourceful as we were or you're in denial if you honestly believe your junior high school child isn't going to be exploring info that didn't come from you with their peers.
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Of course, there are always the brainiacs in school who can figure out how to do just about anything they want to. Besides, at that age, parents aren't always around monitoring their children's every movement. Kids that age are out and about, hanging out with friends, not hanging around at home with mom and dad. At least I wasn't.
 
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justabubba said:
stupid decision
hope its costs them

and thwarted a massive upswing in PTA attendance by dads to boot
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This was funny. I googled her. Tiffany Six. She looks pretty good to me.

This is another reason for school choice. Do you want your children to be taught by gun carrying former porn stars? I would unhesitatingly answer, "Yes." And I would attand the PTA meetings. :)
 
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ChrisL said:
More so than one they saw naked having sex. Face facts.
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I agree, and not just having sex, these videos are about more than that. They're about degradation, humiliation of women as a sexual turn-on. Yeah, she's hot, and some of her class were probably already spinning fantasies involving her. But now they see quite clearly that she wants to be degraded, choked, spit upon, that humiliation is part of sex. What does that do to their fantasies?

Is that what you would want your daughter's first real boyfriend to have pre-loaded in his sexual imagination?
 
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clownboy said:
And not just having sex, these videos are about more than that. They're about degradation, humiliation of women as a sexual turn-on. Yeah, she's hot, and some of her class were probably already spinning fantasies involving her. But now they see quite clearly that she wants to be degraded, choked, spit upon, that humiliation is part of sex. What does that do to their fantasies?

Is that what you would want your daughter's first real boyfriend to have pre-loaded in his sexual imagination?
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How can anyone expect the students to take her seriously? Good Lord! :roll: I don't have a daughter but if I did, then I would have to say Nooooo.
 
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ChrisL said:
How can anyone expect the students to take her seriously? Good Lord! :roll: I don't have a daughter but if I did, then I would have to say Nooooo.
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That last really was a general question to the forum, but I share your response. Nor would I want my grandson to be influenced so in that formative time.
 
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ChrisL said:
This situation is different. If you can't see that then you must be blind. This teacher was seen by students performing sex acts in a porno film. I don't know, maybe you've never seen a porno before so you're not familiar with them. They don't just show nudity you know. They show completely EVERYTHING and sexual acts. This is completely different than checking out a hot teacher. Maybe that wouldn't have distracted you as a boy, but I have a son, and I KNOW he would be completely distracted, and so would his friends.
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If theyre all watching porn, whats the difference between her and a sports star.

I heard an old Hawaiian saying:

If they dont understand then they dont understand. No problem.

If they do understand then they already know. No problem.

Seen one porn you seen em all. If porns already a part of their lives, its just another (less "acceptable") form of celebrity.

And as to the post you didnt understand, she was fired for hiding her scarlett "P".

So you feel she shouldn't lie about her scarlett "P". So she SHOULD wear one.
 
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clownboy said:
Have any of you even tried to watch one of her videos? This isn't 70s Farmer's Daughter porn, this is that new gen degrade the female as much as possible stomach turning crap. They choke her til tears are flowing and degrade her and she acts as if she likes it.

Nothing like learning empowerment from a teacher who you just saw begging to have more pain and humiliation heaped upon her by several men calling her bitch and whore and cumslut.
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I looked and what i saw was pretty "vanilla".

Feel free.to pm me.a link to the "gonzo" you saw.
 
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What if...? said:
If theyre all watching porn, whats the difference between her and a sports star.

I heard an old Hawaiian saying:

If they dont understand then they dont understand. No problem.

If they do understand then they already know. No problem.

Seen one porn you seen em all. If porns already a part of their lives, its just another (less "acceptable") form of celebrity.

And as to the post you didnt understand, she was fired for hiding her scarlett "P".

So you feel she shouldn't lie about her scarlett "P". So she SHOULD wear one.
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The saying you report is dangerously wrong in this context. Combine that with the wrongness of the statement, "Seen one porn you seen em all" and you have the formula for crippling sexual dysfunctions and some sick sexual behavior that may haunt them their lifetimes.

When kids see something they don't understand they fill in the blanks with guesses (typically wrong) and what they do know from other venues. It leaves a very distorted picture where it comes to sex. Mix that distorted picture with the raging hormone storm and their natural vulnerability during this growth flux state and you have the possibility for great harm.

There's a wide gulf between the porn we saw in the 60s and 70s and the porn today (besides hair count). As mentioned, this isn't slap and tickle having fun boning porn, but let's degrade a woman because she likes it, make her a cumslut porn.
 
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