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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Originally Posted by Hard Truth
    Also, no one has addressed other scenarios that show how blurry the line of morally acceptable can be. Which of these teachers should be fired? Which should be fired for not disclosing their status?



    The gay guy who is a gogo dancer in a bar on weekends? (genitals not exposed)
    A woman who was in Girls Gone Wild flashing her tits during spring break years ago?
    The guy who used to drink too much and get into bar fights who is now sober?
    A married couple who go to swing parties?
    Someone who puts their picture on Craigslist looking for sexual partners? What if they didn't show their face, but someone recognizes them anyways?
    A Muslim man who publicly calls the US government evil for killing and torturing Muslims?
    A Muslim woman who always wears a scarf over her hair? Or one who wears even more traditional conservative Muslim clothing?
    Mixed gender roommates who don't have sex with each other, but people assume that they do?
    More than two mixed gender roommates who do have sex with each other?
    A woman who had a baby that was conceived before she got married?
    A couple who live together and have kids and aren't married?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post

    Questions that are answered by school boards across the country with regularity. As this one was here.

    Asked and answered.
    I want to know where you and others who advocate for the woman's firing would draw the line in those cases with your interpretation of the morals clause. (also whether the information is publicly known makes a difference, which Clownboy did answer) How you repond will reflect on whether the clause is something clear and appropriate.

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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    The rest of this has largely been answered. However, this line is untrue. She KNEW this was something that would disqualify her for the job. She KNEW she wouldn't be hired if she included the info. THAT would be the only legitimate time to challenge the supposed "discrimination". She would have lost of course, because these morals clauses have been upheld over and over again.
    We agree that she knew and withheld the information. A gay person applying for a teaching job in Orange county in 1972 would have also had to withhold information to get hired also. They would also have faced the same risk of being outed and outraging parents who would say that they are a bad example and negative influence on their kids and a distraction to learning. Nothing has changed except that one group, gays, is no longer targetted (very often) because they fought for their right to be themselves and not be forced to hide.

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