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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Heck, we should let murders, pimps and drug dealers teach our kids too, maybe even some "reformed" pedobears.

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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Uh, I was joking. Ever hear of a joke before?
    With the past posts that you've had in this thread? No, you were not joking.
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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    With the past posts that you've had in this thread? No, you were not joking.
    Hey, it's not so bad. Maybe she can teach a class about how to suppress your gag reflex?

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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    LOL! And these are just SOME of the things the kids will be saying about her.

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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    LOL! And these are just SOME of the things the kids will be saying about her.
    I've heard far worse things said about teachers.
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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Or she can teach about how to spread your legs for the BEST camera angle.

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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I've heard far worse things said about teachers.
    Hey, why don't you tell me what kind of redeeming qualities a life in the pornography business brings women. I'd really be interested in the answer to that question. Also, how is it NOT demeaning to women?

    Certainly, there are kinds of pornography out there that are "less" demeaning to women. However, all in all, pornography serves one purpose. We ALL know what that purpose is. It isn't to make women look "equal" to their male counterparts in porn, that's for sure. It treats women as sex toys, and one doesn't have to be a radical feminist to realize that it objectifies women.

    Now, I don't have a problem with men watching porn. I've watched it with boyfriends in the past, and it was quite fun I must say. However, this is a different situation when it is a teacher and impressionable (YES, IMPRESSIONABLE) children.

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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post

    Of course this is about the children and the BEST learning environment for them. Sorry, but this woman's past is a huge obstacle to that, especially for the male students. Perhaps what the parents think about it IS also included in this decision. So what?

    I couldn't care less about a "traditional" America, whatever that means. FYI, my own upbringing was FAR from traditional. I am simply looking at this as what is the best learning environment for the children and would this woman's past be a distraction from that goal, and the answer is yes, it would be a distraction.
    What if it were her twin that had done the porn? The kids would then be able to see a woman who looked completely identical to their teacher do porn. Wouldn't that be equally as distracting? She should then be fired right?



    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Again, this is idiotic because it is their TEACHER that they all saw effing multiple guys, etc. Good Lord, is it going to take someone to hammer that bit of info into your brain?
    Ohhhh!! She was their TEACHER!?? Well I guess that makes this horse of a different color!

    No **** it was their teacher, that was the entire basis of this thread. I've still yet to hear any actual ways that it would disturb class other than "it would" and "it'd probably be distracting".

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Or she can teach about how to spread your legs for the BEST camera angle.
    She never said a word about it.

    I think you're going off the deep end now. Let's keep this realistic, kay?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Heck, we should let murders, pimps and drug dealers teach our kids too, maybe even some "reformed" pedobears.
    Every single one of those things is a crime. She isn't a criminal.
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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Hey, why don't you tell me what kind of redeeming qualities a life in the pornography business brings women. I'd really be interested in the answer to that question. Also, how is it NOT demeaning to women?

    Certainly, there are kinds of pornography out there that are "less" demeaning to women. However, all in all, pornography serves one purpose. We ALL know what that purpose is. It isn't to make women look "equal" to their male counterparts in porn, that's for sure. It treats women as sex toys, and one doesn't have to be a radical feminist to realize that it objectifies women.

    Now, I don't have a problem with men watching porn. I've watched it with boyfriends in the past, and it was quite fun I must say. However, this is a different situation when it is a teacher and impressionable (YES, IMPRESSIONABLE) children.
    Here's one...

    Most male performers in heterosexual porn are paid less than their female counterparts. Ron Jeremy has commented on the pay scale of women and men in the sex film industry: in 2003 "Girls can easily make 100K-250K per year, plus stuff on the side like strip shows and appearances. The average male makes $40,000 a year."[21] and in 2008, "The average guy gets $300 to $400 a scene, or $100 to $200 if he's new. A woman makes $100,000 to $250,000 at the end of the year."[22] In 2011, the manager of Capri Anderson said, "A contract girl will only shoot for one company, she won’t shoot for anyone else. Most actresses in the adult industry are free agents – they’ll shoot for anyone. Most contract girls make $60,000 a year. In one year, a contract girl will shoot, on average, four movies and each movie takes about two or three weeks to shoot."[23]


    The Los Angeles Times reported that the pay rates for a female actress performing male and female scenes were $700 to $1,000.[24]

    Some state that gay male porn generally pays men much more than heterosexual porn.[citation needed] Men who identify themselves as heterosexual but perform in gay pornography are said to do gay-for-pay (notably Wolf Hudson). This means they perform in gay movies only for the paycheck, not because of any personal attraction to men.

    According to producer Seymore Butts, who runs his own sex-film recruitment agency, as well as producing sex films; "depending on draw, female performers who perform in both straight and lesbian porn earn more than those who do [just heterosexual scenes] usually make about US$200–800 while those who only do oral sex (blow job) usually only make about US$100–300 for the scene".[25] It was also noted in an interview conducted by Local10 news of Florida that individuals were offered $700 for sexual intercourse while shooting a scene of the popular series Bang Bus in 2004.[26] According to Videobox, a porn website, actresses make these rates: Blowjobs: $200–$400; Straight sex: $400–$1,200; Anal sex: $900–$1,500; Double Penetration: $1,200–$1,600; Double anal: $2,000. For more unusual fetishes, women generally get 15% extra.[27]

    In 2001, actress Chloe said of pay-rates; "In Gonzo, you're paid not by the picture, but by the scene. So it's girl-girl: $700, plus $100 for an anal toy. Boy-girl: $900. Anal: $1,100. Solo: $500. DP: $1,500."[15]

    Additionally, besides appearing in films, porn stars often make money from endorsements and appearance fees. For instance, in 2010, some night clubs were paying female porn stars and Playboy Playmates to appear there to act as draws for the general public; Jesse Jane was reported to have been paid between $5,000 to $10,000 for one appearance by a Chicago club.[28]
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    Notice the payrate of the women vs the guys. Bet you that women won't use that as an example of unequality of pay in the workforce huh? Just outta curiosity, and you don't have to answer but...do you make as much as those women? You'll also note that it says that most of the actresses in the porn industry are free agents, which means they get to chose what type of porn they make. Not exactly demeaning if they choose what they are in is it? Now if you think its demeaning then thats on you. Not them.
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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Here's one...



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    Notice the payrate of the women vs the guys. Bet you that women won't use that as an example of unequality of pay in the workforce huh? Just outta curiosity, and you don't have to answer but...do you make as much as those women? You'll also note that it says that most of the actresses in the porn industry are free agents, which means they get to chose what type of porn they make. Not exactly demeaning if they choose what they are in is it? Now if you think its demeaning then thats on you. Not them.
    I don't see how it could be demeaning when they can choose what they do a-la-carte, and get paid an insane amount of money. If they like it, all the power to them.
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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