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    Re: 't shake porn past, must not return to cla

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    She wasn't dishonest about anything, so I don't know why you bolded that. I've seen the exact same type of catch-all regulations in the army. "Conduct non-becoming of an NCO", which basically means they can punish you for absolutely anything they feel like, even if it's not against regulations, just because they want to.
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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    The point was that almost every American has viewed porn and I don't think they would admit to it if asked in an interview. That's just my opinion though.
    viewing porn is something that happens in the confines of most peoples home and is likely never intended to be broadcast publicly. She made pornographic films to be distributed to the public. Also, while no one usually requires every job listed on an application or resume, they do usually frown upon, and see deceptive, when people omit information with a direct impact on the position.

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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Yes, if someone was known as a white supremist (totally legal) and regularly went on the internet to talk about the evil niggers and kikes (totally legal), while still maintaining the proper attitudes towards his students, I am sure you would have no issue with the guy being fired . Because, despite his proper behavior in the CR, he would still undermine his ability to teach

    Discrimination isn't a bad thing if it's based on reasonable metrics. In fact, I'm sure you do it all the time, just not based on completely arbitrary qualities like skin color and sexual orientation

    What we do and how those acts affect other things can hardly be called arbritrary
    People.do all.sorts.of things i find lame to abhorrent.

    If it stays out of the how a teacher teaches i have no problem.

    As i said, middle school makes it semi valid. Elementary or college, even high school, shouldn't present a problem for the former or be insurmountable.for the latter.
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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    viewing porn is something that happens in the confines of most peoples home and is likely never intended to be broadcast publicly. She made pornographic films to be distributed to the public. Also, while no one usually requires every job listed on an application or resume, they do usually frown upon, and see deceptive, when people omit information with a direct impact on the position.
    I'm not trying to make a correlation between the act of viewing porn and performing in pornography. I totally realize they are different in that regard. The correlation I'm making is that our culture generally frowns upon ANYONE viewing, being in, etc porn even though the majority of the population views it. See what I'm saying? I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of someone saying a teacher should admit she was in porn initially or be fired for it later even though they view porn movies themselves.
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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    If it stays out of the how a teacher teaches i have no problem.

    As i said, middle school makes it semi valid. Elementary or college, even high school, shouldn't present a problem for the former or be insurmountable.for the latter.
    Yes, and my argument was, as you recognize, about how it would impact her ability to teach, not what I thought of her profession. I also agree in other settings it wouldn't be an issue, but think that might be limited to the collage level, given the mixture of grades and the pervasive nature of the internet in the modern age

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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I'm not trying to make a correlation between the act of viewing porn and performing in pornography. I totally realize they are different in that regard. The correlation I'm making is that our culture generally frowns upon ANYONE viewing, being in, etc porn even though the majority of the population views it. See what I'm saying? I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of someone saying a teacher should admit she was in porn initially or be fired for it later even though they view porn movies themselves.
    Porn, short of some very limited production companies, is an extremely sleazy and disgusting market and industry, regardless of your views on sex and sexuality. Also, the reason she should admit to it, and the likely reason she didn't, is it would obviously have an impact on her teaching ability. And not based on any issue of morality, but on the nature of the relationship between students and teachers.

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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Porn, short of some very limited production companies, is an extremely sleazy and disgusting market and industry, regardless of your views on sex and sexuality. Also, the reason she should admit to it, and the likely reason she didn't, is it would obviously have an impact on her teaching ability. And not based on any issue of morality, but on the nature of the relationship between students and teachers.
    COULD have an impact, not would.
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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    COULD have an impact, not would.
    I think in most all circumstances involving grades k-12 that such a discovery would have an impact. Though, of course, such could easily not occur, it still seems enough to warrant listing it on an application

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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    So if an employer asked you if you have viewed pornography, you would answer yes?
    Absolutely, both then and now. But then I've never gone for a position in the church.

    Oh, just thought of one, for my first teaching job after graduation I did include in my resume the Life Studies model gig during college. If nude drawings of me started floating around I wanted to have that dragon slain going in.
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