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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    And if my kid went to that school I would have been right there demanding her dismissal, too. Who's pretending?
    I have no doubt that you would. I personally would not. If I did anything it would be to tell people like you to grow up.

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    Responsible thing to do. Not crappy.
    Yes, crappy. And perpetuating bigotry is never responsible.

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    What planet do you live on? This woman's past would hang over that school like a thick fog for as long as she taught there. No matter how many classes she taught, no matter how many years she spent teaching, once that cat got out of the bag she would forever be known as the porn star in room 105.
    Assuming that is true...and sorry but I can't tell the future..can you? Anyways...So what? The only ones that care are the ones that think porn is dirty/sinful/immoral/disgusting or whatever.

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    It is in this case. We are talking about whether or not a porn star should be allowed to teach 12 year olds. Any reference other than to another porn star is a straw man.
    What about it is a strawman? The main excuse to fire her in this thread is that her past would be a distraction and as such would affect her ability to properly teach. Would none of those peoples pasts that I mentioned be a distraction?

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    Could you possibly understate that any more? Her screen name was Tiffany Six. Google her. All her students most certainly have by now...
    Hey, if stating the full truth is an understatement then so be it. Sorry but I don't consider being in a porn movie to be such a big thing that a simple statement of the truth is to be considered an understatement.

    BTW, if all of her students did google her then perhaps they need better parents? Crappy parenting is no excuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    She wasn't asked about it until it came about, at which point she was going to be fired anyway.

    It is not illegal, nor dishonest to not list a job on a resumee. Please, tell me why by not listing my summer of mowing lawns I am a dishonest piece of **** who should be fired.
    Because that summer mowing lawns is in all liklihood not relevent, not material, to the job being sought. Now, if you left out your summer working as an intern for NAMBLA while applying for a job as school janitor, that would be a material omission that would qualify as intentional dishonesty.

    And again you try to presume with a straight face that she just forgot about this part of her employment history and/or didn't think it was relevent (despite the clear indications that it was - like the contract, the employment application, the posted job specs which detail what you can be fired for should you get the job).

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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    I definitely think she should have been provided the option to teach at a lower level. Like 1st or 2nd grade. They wouldn't have had a clue about her past nor would they have access to a way of finding out. At least I hope to God they wouldn't. I'm sure the state could've worked something out for her instead of just firing her outright with no alternatives. But, that's their right to do so. I just think it's cold hearted to do so.
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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I definitely think she should have been provided the option to teach at a lower level. Like 1st or 2nd grade. They wouldn't have had a clue about her past nor would they have access to a way of finding out. At least I hope to God they wouldn't. I'm sure the state could've worked something out for her instead of just firing her outright with no alternatives. But, that's their right to do so. I just think it's cold hearted to do so.
    There are way too many really good teachers who haven't lied and/or pole danced standing in line waiting for a position to mollycoddle one who got her position by lying.

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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    There are way too many really good teachers who haven't lied and/or pole danced standing in line waiting for a position to mollycoddle one who got her position by lying.
    So if an employer asked you if you have viewed pornography, you would answer yes?
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    Re: 't shake porn past, must not return to cla

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    All this talk about disruption in the classroom, completeness of the job application and dishonesty are all smokescreens. The fact is that a lot of people dislike porn performers and consider their work immoral (even though they are happy to consume it) and that is enough for them to ruin their careers. A large portion of these same people would have done the same thing to an openly gay person twenty years ago for the same reasons and using the same excuses.
    Unfortunately character attacks against people making those arguments doesn't actually undermine the arguments themselves.

    Also, as I said, I'm very pro-porn. I just recognize the obvious disruption such past activities would introduce into any school or classroom, and how that would make actually educating children more difficult

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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    So if an employer asked you if you have viewed pornography, you would answer yes?
    I'm not sure you can compare private and public activities here

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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    No, I wouldn't fire her. I don't see how her porn career has anything to do with her teaching job. If people get bent out of shape over it, after going out of their way to find the material, then that's their problem. She didn't do anything illegal.

    What a bunch of prudes. I'll bet the kids thought it was cool to have a porn star for a teacher.

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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I'm not sure you can compare private and public activities here
    The point was that almost every American has viewed porn and I don't think they would admit to it if asked in an interview. That's just my opinion though.
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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    What a bunch of prudes. I'll bet the kids thought it was cool to have a porn star for a teacher.
    I would have when I was a teenager.
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