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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Whatever. It is obvious here that your views on morality are out of touch with "community standards" and not the operating standard used by the rest of us.
    Community standards allowed for such things as segregation, miscegation, slavery, and wars. Sorry but right is right and wrong is wrong. Just because the majority of people may think something is wrong does not mean that it actually and in reality IS wrong.
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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    If you were in Nazi Germany and were asked if you were a Jew, wouldn't you lie if you were? It is OK to lie to people who are only out to screw you over when you have not done anything wrong.
    Good Lord! It's completely different to lie about something to save your LIFE than it is to lie to get a job.

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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Whatever. It is obvious here that your views on morality are out of touch with "community standards" and not the operating standard used by the rest of us.
    Most people are dishonest hypocrites and bigots. They watch and buy porn yet will discriminate against a porn star seeking other employment. These same community standards discriminated against gays until very recently. It took years of campaigning by activists to change those views,.

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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Most people are dishonest hypocrites and bigots. They watch and buy porn yet will discriminate against a porn star seeking other employment. These same community standards discriminated against gays until very recently. It took years of campaigning by activists to change those views,.
    I used to be annoyed at that, like in the novel Babbit...until I came to think that eventually, I had a perverse sense of admiration for the hypocrisy. Then I later found out I didn't admire them so much as I was more interested in understanding power structures, just usually without the zeal to overturn them (which seemed to be the only way people wanted to learn about it). When you find out that some things aren't "fair," you're expected to freak out and throw a revolution and then get bitterly disappointed when you find out it doesn't work that way either.
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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    But that would have no impact on the way others treat her, which is the sole basis for the judge's decision.
    It absolutely would.

    If it wasn't true, when little Johny comes home from school and tells his mother that his teacher used to be a porn star his mom can tell him that she really wasn't. She just happens to look like a woman who made porn. She can then proceed to kick his little ass for looking at porn and take away his internet privileges. With a little luck, little Johny would learn a valuable lesson about false allegations and spreading lies. But that can't happen in this case because his teacher REALLY IS adult film star Tiffany Six.
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    I have pooped in public, even in public neighborhoods.

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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    No, not the same. There have been occasions where homosexuality or religious choice has come into discussion over whether one is comfortably employed or not, but there is a social, professional, and legal understanding that one cannot fire over that. Big difference. Once pornography and its performers become socially acceptable enough, then matters entirely change.
    Firing people for being homosexual was legal until very recently in the USA. The exact same arguments were sued against gays that are being used against the porn performer now. Society was wrong then, and they are wrong now.

    When the current generation gets older and enough of them suffer discrimination for all their tattoos, piercings, spring break flashing pics, controversial art work, nude pics sent to boyfriends, stupid comments posted online, etc. there may be a movement to end this particular type of bigotry also.

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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Firing people for being homosexual was legal until very recently in the USA. The exact same arguments were sued against gays that are being used against the porn performer now. Society was wrong then, and they are wrong now.

    When the current generation gets older and enough of them suffer discrimination for all their tattoos, piercings, spring break flashing pics, controversial art work, nude pics sent to boyfriends, stupid comments posted online, etc. there may be a movement to end this particular type of bigotry also.
    Ever notice how I basically hinted at that when I first posted in this thread this afternoon? What you're asking is widespread social change, but blaming the education system for doing what they have done best: be the purveyors of what society wants. Maybe you folks are looking at the wrong target here, or at the very least, are getting too amped up. The easiest predictor is that the education system will need to preserve the status quo regardless. Defining what the status-quo is is easier to change, even though it's not easy at all.
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Good Lord! It's completely different to lie about something to save your LIFE than it is to lie to get a job.
    Haha

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    Re: Jan't shake porn past, must not return to cla

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    If you were in Nazi Germany and were asked if you were a Jew, wouldn't you lie if you were? It is OK to lie to people who are only out to screw you over when you have not done anything wrong.
    Lol~!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Yes, in fact most of the arguments in her favor, if not all, require us to ignore the mentality of children in a school setting, and some even go so far as to compare it to a professional work engironment
    Show them please. Post numbers are sufficiant. Context is important.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    1) the entire reason bullying is such a problem in school is the very limited ability of teachers to police a large group of children in a large building
    Wrong. The reason that bullying is such a problem is due to crappy parents not teaching their kids correctly. But if you think that this is part of the problem then there is a simple way to fix this...hire enough security to constantly patrol the school and install camera's. The moment bullying is detected...stop it and punish the perpetrators.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    2) why should a school have to deal with her social baggage, or even want to? They have enough to deal with already
    I've already answered this.



    Umm...because its the RIGHT thing to do? See thats the problem with many people these days. [/Quote]

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