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    Re: Judn past, must not return to cla

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Perhaps responsible adults should teach kids to treat everyone with respect. I'm glad that was what I was taught.
    again, you can complain about what should be, but that doesn't amounting to changing things

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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    The decision is disgraceful and wrong and based on bigotry. She did nothing illegal or even immoral.
    Stopped you right there because you are wrong on the facts. She lied several times about the matter and those false resumes will get you every time. It is reported that she also lied under oath. All illegal. Had she been forthcoming about her past when applying for the job, and gotten it, then she would have a legitimate defense. As it stands, just on the omissions/lies on her application and subsequent contracts alone she is sunk.

    Btw, where there are moral clauses, at least a partial list of activities that will trigger them ARE listed. She knew she couldn't get the job if she told the truth. She got caught.

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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Pornography is not accepted as a mainstream occupation within the context of the moral framework of the United States. Definitely not within the range of information that parents want their children to be taught to accept as an interim occupation.

    Certainly this fact is an outrage to certain liberal client groups who's primary interest is the destruction of all moral codes or Christian morality guidelines, but the fact remains that's how it is. Porn, like other things such as masturbation or sexual intercourse, remains an activity that is properly confined to the home.

    Recall the Pee Wee Herman incident and the subsequent endless attempts by the MSM to rehabilitate his career after his own indiscretion. Herman made movies, etc, that appealed to children. Americans said NO, we don't want him around our children anymore.

    Liberals refuse to accept anyone saying NO to them, but that is the morality of America, thank God for that. This teacher was property discharged from the school, but remains free to pursue other activities not involving children or offensive to the public morals of the majority. She could run for public office.
    At last, an honest post from someone who supports her firing. The whole basis of the firing is a religion-based hypocritical morality.

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    Re: Juake porn past, must not return to cla

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Either way, my statement applies to others just as much as you. Any kid that is disrespectful to their peers should be punished. I know for a fact that when ever I was disrespectful (and what kid isn't at one point in their lives?) I got my ass whooped. Taught me real quick to mind my manners.

    who has endorsed children being disrespectful to their piers or adults? What people are doing is pointing out that the mentality of 14 is conductive to such behavior, and that her past career choices will act like a lightening rod fr poor behavior, on top of what already goes on.

    Why would any employer chose to put themselves under such additional strain when there are plenty of other teachers out there
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    Re: 't shake porn past, must not return to cla

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Of course kids push their peers. Thats part of childhood. Doesn't mean that you let them get away with it. If you do then you're a real crappy parent.
    No one is endorsing them "getting away with it", but pointing out in a chaotic school atmosphere many will

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    Re: ake porn past, must not return to cla

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    I had a hot teacher in high school and I can't imagine being any more distracted than I was watching her instead of listening to her. Good looking people should also be prohibited from teaching unless they wear a burka.
    how does this logically follow from anything I wrote?

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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    At last, an honest post from someone who supports her firing. The whole basis of the firing is a religion-based hypocritical morality.

    it's hilarious watching you guys try to make this about religion and morality: I'm an atheist, have absolutely no issue with porn, and even know a few porn stars. Who I doubt would even describe their profession as "respectable".

    Honestly, it is beyond me how people can just dismiss or ignore the clear implications this would have in the classroom

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    Re: Ren't shake porn past, must not return to cla

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    lol, are you kidding me? My seventh grade english teacher was harassed about his comb over until he retired. As people have pointed out, it was part of campus lore that kids were introduced to every year. And kids being assholes at that age, and stuck in a classroom, never let up about it.




    nothing I wrote can be construed as having a negative attitude towards porn. The issue that I have outlined clearly concerns how kids will react to it and how they will tease, disrespect, and dismiss her.
    Teachers with comb-overs should be fired also. And gays, Muslims, Scientologists, Mormons, Atheists, they can all create a distraction.

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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    This is more as a result of societal pressures than much else, but they are what they are. A person with that past has to realize three similar things:

    1) Your colleagues will not respect you
    2) Your community, particularly parents, will not respect or trust you and think you will do harm
    3) Your students will not respect traditional authoritative boundaries, thus breaking both the student-teacher relationship and academic excellence.

    As such, your placement in the classroom will likely not be constructive, not worth the effort, not worth the state's funds, and will be an unnecessary distraction from the education of the students.
    Same with guys with comb-overs, gays, Muslims, etc.

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    Re: Ren't shake porn past, must not return to cla

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Teachers with comb-overs should be fired also. And gays, Muslims, Scientologists, Mormons, Atheists, they can all create a distraction.
    Every one of them who lied on their resumes, lied to get the job and keep it, are equally on the hook and may be fired upon discovery.

    Btw, IF there is a morals clause in the contract, she knew that BEFORE she signed on the dotted line. Plenty of time before and after signing to investigate the matter with her union rep. And where was the union in this? The union does not defend those who lie to get the job, at least they haven't in my experience (which admittedly is a couple decades old).
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