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    Re: Ren't shake porn past, must not return to cla

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    lol, are you kidding me? My seventh grade english teacher was harassed about his comb over until he retired. As people have pointed out, it was part of campus lore that kids were introduced to every year. And kids being assholes at that age, and stuck in a classroom, never let up about it.
    And that's completely unacceptable. Luckily schools have started to change to crack down on stuff like that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    nothing I wrote can be construed as having a negative attitude towards porn. The issue that I have outlined clearly concerns how kids will react to it and how they will tease, disrespect, and dismiss her.
    And your solution to that is to remove the victim of the teasing and disrespect, instead of dealing with the perpetrators. Do woman who get raped deserve it because they were looking hot?
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I'm not sure you making an absurd claim, and me pointing out that it is absurd, rises to the level of "debate". *But yes, I have been outlining the reasons it would be problematic for a few pages now. *
    So you can't quantify how student's education is ruined by the teacher's background?



    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    You don't see it because you are ignoring reality, common sense, and most importantly, human nature. Her aptitude as a teacher has nothing to do with it.
    So instead of explaining it, you're going to state again that it's because of common sense, and human nature? At least you've admitted that it has nothing to do with her quality as a teacher. So explain to me again, how does it ruin the kids education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    No, but I'm willing to bet that those "sex moves" are all the kids are going to be thinking about and talking to each other about.
    That's all young boys are ever thinking about. I know I had a raging boner sitting through half of my classes at that age.
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: Ren't shake porn past, must not return to cla

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    And that should be HER decision to leave if she doesn't want to deal with the so called teasing.
    I'm more concerned about kids getting an education, not dealing with obvious issues because you want to feel better about yourself.

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    Re: Ren't shake porn past, must not return to cla

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Teachers are meant to be respected. We have enough trouble with that right now. Their character, to their charges, should be above reproach. That's just the fackjack. She's an attractive nuisance. A distraction. A terrible role model. I could go on.
    She's not there to teach the kids morality, she's teaching science. Not a single word about her private life is spoken. It's the job of the parents to be the role model and teach morality.
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    Re: Ren't shake porn past, must not return to cla

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    And that's completely unacceptable. Luckily schools have started to change to crack down on stuff like that.
    yes, and I find the fact that poverty exists and that it doesn't rain gumdrops equally disheartening. But that still doesn't change the reality of the situation


    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    And your solution to that is to remove the victim of the teasing and disrespect, instead of dealing with the perpetrators. Do woman who get raped deserve it because they were looking hot?
    Did you really just really compare this to blaming rape victims? How is this, in anyway, similar to blaming as rape victim?


    This person doesn't have an explicit right to teach children, especially when past life choices have undermined that ability. A school full of children isn't the same as a professional work environment, bullying will go on, the last thing any administration needs to deal with is a teacher that is going to act as a focal point for such behavior, while also trying to deal with it among the student body.

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    Re: Ren't shake porn past, must not return to cla

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    And management usually does deal with it, by warning or firing that person.
    I'm aware, but my problem is the legal force behind it.

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    Re: Ren't shake porn past, must not return to cla

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    lol, so as I just stated, the environment and expectations are completely different.

    Thank you professor
    The enviornment is different, but the expectations are the same.

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    Re: Ren't shake porn past, must not return to cla

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    yes, and I find the fact that poverty exists and that it doesn't rain gumdrops equally disheartening. But that still doesn't change the reality of the situation




    Did you really just really compare this to blaming rape victims? How is this, in anyway, similar to blaming as rape victim?


    This person doesn't have an explicit right to teach children, especially when past life choices have undermined that ability. A school full of children isn't the same as a professional work environment, bullying will go on, the last thing any administration needs to deal with is a teacher that is going to act as a focal point for such behavior, while also trying to deal with it among the student body.
    You saying that she has undermined her ability to teach doesn't make it so. I'm still waiting for concrete reasons other than you think she's immoral.

    And it was an over the top comparison to a rape victim to prove a point: you don't blame the victim, you blame the attackers.
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    Re: Ren't shake porn past, must not return to cla

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The enviornment is different, but the expectations are the same.
    LOL~!!! I bet you were the class clown. Tell you what, champ, ask any teacher you know if they have the same expectations in the class room as a professional office environment.

    see how that goes for you

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    Re: Ren't shake porn past, must not return to cla

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    You saying that she has undermined her ability to teach doesn't make it so.
    exactly, which is why I have been writing out the various ways she has undermined her ability to teach. Your response to that was to say it shouldn't happen. Which I pointed out doesn't mean it won't

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    I'm still waiting for concrete reasons other than you think she's immoral.
    where did I ever claim she was immoral?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    And it was an over the top comparison to a rape victim to prove a point: you don't blame the victim, you blame the attackers.
    Where did I blame here? I pointed to the inevitable response of 14 year olds to finding out their teacher did porn and why no school should be expected to deal wiuth her baggage, in addition to all the bull**** they are already trying to deal with

    Nothing about that assigns blame to her or passes moral judgement on her.

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    Re: Judges say Calif. middle school teacher can't shake porn past, must not return to

    This is more as a result of societal pressures than much else, but they are what they are. A person with that past has to realize three similar things:

    1) Your colleagues will not respect you
    2) Your community, particularly parents, will not respect or trust you and think you will do harm
    3) Your students will not respect traditional authoritative boundaries, thus breaking both the student-teacher relationship and academic excellence.

    As such, your placement in the classroom will likely not be constructive, not worth the effort, not worth the state's funds, and will be an unnecessary distraction from the education of the students.
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

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