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Thread: Obama plans to surround himself with children during gun control announcement

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    Re: Obama surrounds himself by kids while removing our rights.

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    Re: Obama surrounds himself by kids while removing our rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Poor analogy and you know it. Drivers of vehicles are required to be licensed, vehicles must be registered, insured and have plates on them before they can be driven on the street so why not require gun sales to be registered and gun owners to be licensed and tested ? You can not legally drive a car if your license has been revoked
    No, it's a perfect analogy. If a felon is carrying a gun, it's illegal. If a non-licensed person is driving, it's illegal. Tell me how YOU should be held responsible in either of those scenarios for selling them a gun, or a car.
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    Re: Obama plans to surround himself with children during gun control announcement

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Obama has hit a new low of cheesedickery.

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    I personally think using children to illicit an emotional response from the US in order to make the announcement go over smoother is a pretty despicable tactic. I'm reminded of:



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    Re: Obama surrounds himself by kids while removing our rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    What does my crossing the street have to do with you or someone else selling a weapon to a convicted felon or deranged person? This is the way I feel if someone in my family is shot say my 7 year old grandson by a weapon sold privately, the person who sold that weapon is just as criminally responsible as the person who ?does the shooting. Do you really feel that you can protect your family every minute,every hour of every day from violence?Have you trained your children,grandchildren or all of your loved ones in self defense can they all use a weapon to defend their selves?



    I have no problem with executing a killer, Will killing the murderer bring back the person who has been killed? Or maybe you think that person is responsible for his/her own death because they did not shoot back fast enough. Background checks are an effective way to keep weapons out of the hands of people who should not be able to purchase weapons
    WHOOOOSH!! Right over your head, dude.

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    Re: Obama surrounds himself by kids while removing our rights.

    I think it's okay to use children in poltical ads, especially if the issue about children, I just don't think it's okay to use your opponents children in a poltical ad.

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    Re: Obama surrounds himself by kids while removing our rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Here is a concrete fact for you 40% of the guns sold in America are sold to people who have not had a background check completed before the sale, so lets make an educated guess that maybe some of those weapons were sold to felons or to people with mental problems. Would it be an imposition to a legal gun owner if he had to have a background check completed before he/she could sell a weapon. You may consider this to be a slight pain but it is not an infringement of the 2nd amendment.
    Uh huh, and how exactly can you/they prove the validity of that claim if these ao called 40% of sales are illegal and untracked. Are the criminals making a phone call to let the authorities know they have made an illegal purchase. Do you really thinl imposing stricter regulations on you and I will make tje criminal trade cease to exist?

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    Re: Obama surrounds himself by kids while removing our rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I think it's okay to use children in poltical ads, especially if the issue about children, I just don't think it's okay to use your opponents children in a poltical ad.





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    Re: Obama surrounds himself by kids while removing our rights.

    You all may declare Alex Jones as a crackpot, but he is spot on this morning. Check out this site on other dictators, who have used children to further their ideas.

    » Other Tyrants Who Have Used Children As Props Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

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    Re: Obama surrounds himself by kids while removing our rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    No, it's a perfect analogy. If a felon is carrying a gun, it's illegal. If a non-licensed person is driving, it's illegal. Tell me how YOU should be held responsible in either of those scenarios for selling them a gun, or a car.
    I have not seen a study comparing gun violence deaths to vehicle violence death.Do you have a source comparing the violence related death caused by vehicles and guns? But maybe your right maybe we should do a background check before we sell a vehicle. Is there a law in place making it illegal for a convicted felon or mentally dangerous person to drive a car?

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    Re: Obama surrounds himself by kids while removing our rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    I have not seen a study comparing gun violence deaths to vehicle violence death.Do you have a source comparing the violence related death caused by vehicles and guns? But maybe your right maybe we should do a background check before we sell a vehicle. Is there a law in place making it illegal for a convicted felon or mentally dangerous person to drive a car?
    Convicted felons can drive, and the mentally dangerous who are denied cars are institutionalized, so no.


    Vehicle deaths per year: ~32,000
    Gun deaths by homicide or accident per year: ~13,000

    I didn't count suicide in guns because that is their decision. I'd rather have them shoot themselves than kill themselves with a car and make themselves a public danger.
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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