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    Re: Wyoming Bill Would Nullify Obama Gun Control, Jail Feds.....

    I've posted before that States should pass pro-active gun rights legislation as then it is a states-rights issue.

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    Re: Wyoming Bill Would Nullify Obama Gun Control, Jail Feds.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I agree.....there are 30 Republican Controlled States. If all of them were to do this. That would put a dent in Obama and the Democrats Crawl. I like that part about they are Sovereign Government too.

    One thing is for certain. The NRA has been making moves this whole time. Hopefully some of those Pols in D.C are taking Notice too.

    Also if states would do this in the state government and legislature, it would require their state officials to go on record one way or the other so that voters would know.

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    Re: Wyoming Bill Would Nullify Obama Gun Control, Jail Feds.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    There's also this from Article VI, clause 3, first sentence:

    Like I said, residents of Wyoming needs to back far away from what their state GOP legislators are proposing.
    And if supporting the constitution means opposing the feds who violate it, so be it...
    "We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress & the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."
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    Re: Wyoming Bill Would Nullify Obama Gun Control, Jail Feds.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    And if supporting the constitution means opposing the feds who violate it, so be it...
    This is why we have THREE branches of government, to ensure that all acts proposed by Congress and signed into law by the President are, in fact, deemed Constitutional by the Supreme Court. If you as a citizen of this great nation or any given state within the Union have a problem with any given law of the land, take your case up to the Supreme Court through the proper channels OR contact your State Representative, Congressman or Senator to change the law accordingly. Any other individual action by an individual or the state could very well be viewed as insurrection depending on the extremes or your actions.

    In short, what the Wyoming legislature is attempting is foolish!

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    Re: Wyoming Bill Would Nullify Obama Gun Control, Jail Feds.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    This is why we have THREE branches of government, to ensure that all acts proposed by Congress and signed into law by the President are, in fact, deemed Constitutional by the Supreme Court. If you as a citizen of this great nation or any given state within the Union have a problem with any given law of the land, take your case up to the Supreme Court through the proper channels OR contact your State Representative, Congressman or Senator to change the law accordingly. Any other individual action by an individual or the state could very well be viewed as insurrection depending on the extremes or your actions.

    In short, what the Wyoming legislature is attempting is foolish!
    They don't look so foolish now with other states doing so too.....other than someone thinking they do. But it sure didn't stop any legislation from going forward. Did it now?

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    Re: Wyoming Bill Would Nullify Obama Gun Control, Jail Feds.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I get what you're saying here, but here's the problem as I see it:

    The Wyoming legislature is trying to do two separate things using one law: 1) impose stronger gun rights legislation at the state level (which may hold stiffer penalties than federal law which is fine); and, 2) deny federal officials from over-stepping said state-level gun rights legislation.

    No matter what Wyoming does, their law can never trump federal law nor bar federal officials from conducting official federal business within their state. Why? Because federal officials in their capacity to uphold federal regulations as proposed by Congress and signed into law by the President can never be abridged by the separate states. Unless the residents of the State of Wyoming wish to bring about insurrection, they'd be smart to back far away from this.
    Rxcept when it is passed via executive order rather than legislation--meaning it would trigger the Wyoming law and jailing federal officials would trigger automatic appeals with the feds being the ones jailed rather than Wyoming citizens. They are attempting to protect their citizenry from over reaching fed power grabs that are not legislative action. I would say they are doing the job the feds should be doing rather then the one that they are threatening to do.

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    Wyoming Bill Would Nullify Obama Gun Control, Jail Feds.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    They don't look so foolish now with other states doing so too.....other than someone thinking they do. But it sure didn't stop any legislation from going forward. Did it now?
    How many states are we talking about?

    I'm just curious.

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    Re: Wyoming Bill Would Nullify Obama Gun Control, Jail Feds.....

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    How many states are we talking about?

    I'm just curious.
    Texas, SD, Indiana even has come up with different legislation.

    A bill just introduced in Indiana known as the Firearm Freedom Act, for instance, would also protect the rights of gun owners to be free from federal regulations if the gun was produced and purchased in the state. Similar legislation has already been adopted in other states.....snip~

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    Re: Wyoming Bill Would Nullify Obama Gun Control, Jail Feds.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post


    As the Obama administration plots various assaults on gun rights by “executive order” and legislation, proposals described as “very extreme” even by some Democrats, state lawmakers in Wyoming have another idea. Republican legislators are rallying behind nullification legislation that would void unconstitutional infringements on the right to keep and bear arms, even providing prison time for any federal agents who may try to enforce Washington, D.C., gun control in the state. Lawmakers expect it to pass.

    The new bill, H.B. 0104 or the “Firearms Protection Act,” would nullify any new federal infringements on the constitutionally protected gun rights of state residents — who enjoy some of the lowest crime rates while being among the most heavily armed people in America. Unconstitutional federal gun registration schemes, as well as restrictions on semi-automatic guns or standard-capacity magazines, would also be nullified under the legislation.

    There are teeth in the proposed law too: Any federal official attempting to enforce unconstitutional statutes or decrees infringing on gun rights passed after January 1 of this year would be charged with a felony. If convicted, criminal officials would be punished by up to five years in state prison and a $5,000 fine. The legislation also authorizes the state attorney general to defend citizens of Wyoming if federal authorities seek prosecutions under unconstitutional gun control rules.


    Wyoming Bill Would Nullify Obama Gun Control, Jail Feds

    Alright Wyoming. They say the Fed tries and takes their Rights.....it will be a crime. Already they have Police Chiefs and Sherriffs are already working on Strategies to protect gun rights in their jurisdiction. They are wasting no time with this State Legislation.
    We have a Tenth Amendment for a reason.....

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    Re: Wyoming Bill Would Nullify Obama Gun Control, Jail Feds.....

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    didn't realize the population of wyoming was this dense



    if something is actually found to be unConstitutional, then it cannot be enforced. no new legislation at the state level modifies that reality

    the reich wing politicians are only stating the obvious in that regard

    now, if the state officials want to impose their own interpertation regarding what should be found unConstitutional and then try before the state court a federal employee performing his fiduciary responsibilities, expect a show down. not unlike Eisenhower sending in the National Guard to enforce the federal non-discrimination laws in arkansas

    for the younger crowd, the state officials lost
    No, dense is parroting some left wing drool because you were told to without any understanding to the context of an issue.

    How about we place severe limititations on abortion....which is always fatal...you know, to save the children.....

    Liberalism......you need a signed permision slip to go on a field trip, but not to get an abortion.

    You guys are eventually going to crawl back into your slimey holes.

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