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    Re: Wyoming Bill Would Nullify Obama Gun Control, Jail Feds.....

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    given that array of opposition and their credentials, that recurring opposition to what you believe, by august officials, should cause you to reflect on the soundness of your personal beliefs.
    What credentials? The ability to get the Mob that is the American voting public to vote for them and/or to get themselves appointed by elected officials? Not exactly world-beating credentials. Especially when it comes to something that most Lawyers don't seem to believe exists.... the distinction between RIGHT and WRONG. Throw the US Constitution out and these proposed laws are STILL ridiculous, moronic, and worthless on their face.

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    Re: Wyoming Bill Would Nullify Obama Gun Control, Jail Feds.....

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Cracker is a racial slur for white people, and unless you live in a cave, you knew that, you're just trying to play stupid.

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    Slang: Disparaging and Offensive. a poor white person living in some rural parts of the southeastern U.S.

    N***er, spick, wetback, cracker, etc. are all racial slurs. As racial slurs they are not the NAME of the race. Your uneducation on the subject is appalling. Do you call black people "n***ers" but say "no, no, it's ok, that's not a race."?

    I'd also like to remind you that you have violated the rules of this forum by calling someone by a racial slur. It also in the process made you and your ramblings look like horrifically ignorant.
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    Re: Wyoming Bill Would Nullify Obama Gun Control, Jail Feds.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    What credentials? The ability to get the Mob that is the American voting public to vote for them and/or to get themselves appointed by elected officials? Not exactly world-beating credentials. Especially when it comes to something that most Lawyers don't seem to believe exists.... the distinction between RIGHT and WRONG. Throw the US Constitution out and these proposed laws are STILL ridiculous, moronic, and worthless on their face.
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    Re: Wyoming Bill Would Nullify Obama Gun Control, Jail Feds.....

    Well, this takes the matter beyond one legislator in Texas (as mentioned in another thread). It's dead canary in the coal mine time.

    Crap, I was hoping the nation would hold together at least until I'm dead and gone.

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    Re: Wyoming Bill Would Nullify Obama Gun Control, Jail Feds.....

    All that is needed is for a couple more states to join with Wyoming to back the dissenters and show the Obama Administration that America is fed up with the assault on our Constitution and Bill Of Rights and that there will be no more compromise_

    I fully expect Texas to react much the same as Wyoming and possibly a couple of the southern states_

    Hopefully this will grow into a national movement since we can expect no help from main stream media_
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    Re: Wyoming Bill Would Nullify Obama Gun Control, Jail Feds.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    All that is needed is for a couple more states to join with Wyoming to back the dissenters and show the Obama Administration that America is fed up with the assault on our Constitution and Bill Of Rights and that there will be no more compromise_

    I fully expect Texas to react much the same as Wyoming and possibly a couple of the southern states_

    Hopefully this will grow into a national movement since we can expect no help from main stream media_
    They did and so did Indiana.

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    Re: Wyoming Bill Would Nullify Obama Gun Control, Jail Feds.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Nah, just more than willing to do my part to eliminate traitors and right wing nutjobs who take the law into their own hands. Do you plan on joining the rebellion? Has the NRA and the gun manufacturers gotten you so riled up you're willing to take up arms against your country?
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    Re: Wyoming Bill Would Nullify Obama Gun Control, Jail Feds.....

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    2. Wyoming is not a sovereign country. Federal law takes primacy over state law. Were Wyoming to adopt laws that interfere with federal enforcement beyond what is constitutionally permissible e.g., legal challenges are allowable, those acts would amount to crimes. The federal government would be justified in taking extraordinary measures in such circumstances. That it could take such measures has precedent e.g., as had been the case when it came to enforcement of the civil rights laws.
    That is true if, and only if, the administration is willing to enforce the laws. Obama's casual dismissal of any law he finds inconvenient, from immigration enforcement to marijuana, have completely undermined any moral authority to act against an individual state.
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    Re: Wyoming Bill Would Nullify Obama Gun Control, Jail Feds.....

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Three points:

    1. Prospective changes in the nation's gun laws might be subject to constitutional challenge. That legal avenue would exist regardless of any laws adopted by Wyoming. Legal avenues and elections is where the battle should be fought. Soft secession is not the proper approach.

    2. Wyoming is not a sovereign country. Federal law takes primacy over state law. Were Wyoming to adopt laws that interfere with federal enforcement beyond what is constitutionally permissible e.g., legal challenges are allowable, those acts would amount to crimes. The federal government would be justified in taking extraordinary measures in such circumstances. That it could take such measures has precedent e.g., as had been the case when it came to enforcement of the civil rights laws.

    3. Should the federal government have to take such extraordinary measures, the political leaders and others responsible for bringing about such a situation should be held accountable to the fullest extent under the law. At the same time, the State of Wyoming should be required to fully compensate the federal government.
    Theres a catch. Thats if the other states go along, like say Texas, or South Dakota. If more than one state does this which is what it sounds like may be happening then the Feds are going to have a very serious problem eepecially if the people of those states decide to get behind their representives. Then theres going to be a crisis especially if the Feds try to push the issue.
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    Re: Wyoming Bill Would Nullify Obama Gun Control, Jail Feds.....

    In order for the WY bill to have teeth it would have to be enforced by the People. If WY arrests Feds then the Feds will arrest WY politicians and officials. The People would then have to take action. How likely is that?

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