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    Re: White House denies Texas secession

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    The Texas population is 25,674,681. Approximately 125,000 signed it, but many were not even Texas residents. I don't see what is newsworthy of the White House denying succession based on a online petition with signatures from 0.004% of the population, less if you don't count the out of state signatures. I don't think this succession movement is nearly as big as some make it out to be.
    The newsworthy part is his interpretation of the constitution. Hes now on record as saying no state can ever be free unless the federal govt says so.

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    Re: White House denies Texas secession

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    The newsworthy part is his interpretation of the constitution. Hes now on record as saying no state can ever be free unless the federal govt says so.
    I missed that part skimming through, that is definitely newsworthy.

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    Re: White House denies Texas secession

    We'll see what happens if a natural disaster hits Texas. Think they will say no thank you we don't need help from the government.

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    Re: White House denies Texas secession

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    We'll see what happens if a natural disaster hits Texas. Think they will say no thank you we don't need help from the government.
    If they are independent, probably. They have refused federal aid for healthcare before. Florida declined aid to build a high speed rail. Some states have principles and dont think they federal govt should redistribute money to them.

    Office of the Governor Rick Perry - [Press Release] Gov. Perry: Texas Will Not Expand Medicaid or Implement Health Benefit Exchange

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    Re: White House denies Texas secession

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I guess that means it'll never happen. The rest of the states are all too happy too mooch off of us while complaining that they don't like us.

    I'm reminded of the quote from the move Trainspotting:
    "Some hate the English. I don't. They're just wankers. We, on the other hand, are COLONIZED by wankers."
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    Re: White House denies Texas secession

    Except that with certain foreign countries, we don't require visas. The UK, for example. However, these are countries that generally we have positive relationships with.
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    Re: White House denies Texas secession

    It's really very simple. If Perry has the balls, put it to a vote in the State. If people in Texas want to become their own Country they will vote for it. At that point they may have an argument for it.
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    Re: White House denies Texas secession

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    It's really very simple. If Perry has the balls, put it to a vote in the State. If people in Texas want to become their own Country they will vote for it. At that point they may have an argument for it.
    Im ok with that. No one really thought this petition was serious.

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    Re: White House denies Texas secession

    In Texas, if you wanna shoot ducks, you have to do it with a shotgun and can have only three rounds in the magazine.

    Gun control!!! Oh noes!

    But worry not...

    If'n yew wanna hunt messkin's, you can use any rifle you got and have as many bullets in the magazine as you can stick in thar'.

    Don't mess with Texas. Yeee-hawww!

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    Re: White House denies Texas secession

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    If the founders didnt intend for a state to ever be allowed to leave till the end of time, why did they write:
    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
    If they wanted states to have free exit, why did they write "Articles of Confederation and perpetual Union between the states of New Hampshire, Massachusetts-bay Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia."

    And then, when the Constitution replaced the Articles they wrote: "...in Order to form a more perfect Union...?"

    IF the Union was perpetual under the Articles,
    AND IF the Constitution made it more perfect,
    AND IF less than perpetual is NOT more perfect than perpetual,
    THEN the Union must also/still be perpetual under the Constitution.
    Therefore, since the world has still/Much good, but much less good than ill,
    And while the sun and moon endure/Luck's a chance, but trouble's sure,
    I'd face it as a wise man would,/And train for ill and not for good.

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