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    Re: Obama chides GOP on debt limit: 'We are not a deadbeat nation'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Well technically it was written up but the various parts were referred to the various subcommittees...and apparently has died. To be sure collectively there is little chance the bill would pass the House and certainly not the Senate. Some are actually not bad ideas.
    So when you called it the "list of spending cuts the repubs have proposed", you really meant "the list of spending cut the repubs wouldnt vote for"
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    Re: Obama chides GOP on debt limit: 'We are not a deadbeat nation'

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Wrong again.....you missed the part where he explained the example of what he could do. At least he did give some insight as to how he was looking at it.

    Did you need it explained in Jive?
    Nothing he proposed was unconstitutional (except in the minds of the 2nd amend bet-wetters)
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    Re: Obama chides GOP on debt limit: 'We are not a deadbeat nation'

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Yep, I switched horses.
    translation - your post was dishonest.

    QUelle surprise
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    Re: Obama chides GOP on debt limit: 'We are not a deadbeat nation'

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Thats what I said. However, a budget does put limits on what congress can appropriate procedurely. My point, though, was that an appropriation has nothing to do with the debt ceiling.
    No, that's not what you said, and a budget doesn't put any limit on congress.

    IOW, you have no point. You don't even have the facts
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    Re: Obama chides GOP on debt limit: 'We are not a deadbeat nation'

    Everyone knows history well enough to know that it was bush*, not Clinton, who invaded Iraq.

    Well, everybody but one
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    Re: Obama chides GOP on debt limit: 'We are not a deadbeat nation'

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Irrelevant. You said "Clinton had nothing to do with Iraq." You were absolutely incorrect, despite your conspiracy theory source. while you're talking about wasting money, look up Clinton and the Balkans.
    even a fool would recognize that she meant he had nothing to do with invading Iraq. That was all on bush*
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    Re: Obama chides GOP on debt limit: 'We are not a deadbeat nation'

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Everyone knows history well enough to know that it was bush*, not Clinton, who invaded Iraq.

    Well, everybody but one
    What really embarrasses conservatives now is that while a majority of Congressional Democrats voted against AOF in Iraq, almost every single Republican in Congress voted for it!
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    Re: Obama chides GOP on debt limit: 'We are not a deadbeat nation'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more @: Obama chides GOP on debt limit: 'We are not a deadbeat nation' - NBC Politics

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    Read more: Obama press conference: No ?ransom? for raising debt ceiling - Jennifer Epstein - POLITICO.com


    Obama said he will not negotiate on the debt ceiling. He also talked about gun control, and more.
    The hubris of this man is amazing. He is going to lecture others about financial responsibility?


    I can only respond:


    "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies… America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better."

    - Senator Barack Obama

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    Re: Obama chides GOP on debt limit: 'We are not a deadbeat nation'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    The hubris of this man is amazing. He is going to lecture others about financial responsibility?


    I can only respond:


    "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies… America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better."

    - Senator Barack Obama
    Because everyone knows that the President *has* to negotiate.
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    Re: Obama chides GOP on debt limit: 'We are not a deadbeat nation'

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Because everyone knows that the President *has* to negotiate.
    That is what Presidents have historically done. Democrats, for example, forced Bush to pass PAYGO with a debt ceiling raise, and debt ceiling hikes have been attached to spending cuts regularly since the 1980's, and periodically before that.


    But, of course, he's the President. He can veto what he likes.

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