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    Re: IRS Tax Advocate Calls for a Tax Code Overhaul

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    That is what you are saying. I know you may not like it, but the effect of simplifying the tax code would be to put many people out of work. You have to plan for that.
    yep
    tax attorneys and tax accountants can wash dishes, mow lawns or something else that is (finally) productive

    and the IRS revenue agents can kiss my ass

    that's the plan
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    Re: IRS Tax Advocate Calls for a Tax Code Overhaul

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    That is what you are saying. I know you may not like it, but the effect of simplifying the tax code would be to put many people out of work. You have to plan for that.
    So we should keep a system that is beyond the comprehension of the average intelligent adult including most IRS agents, so people can keep their jobs. And it wouldn't eliminate all the jobs, but a good portion, while making the tax system understandable.

    I just cannot fathom that thinking.....
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    Re: IRS Tax Advocate Calls for a Tax Code Overhaul

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    So we should keep a system that is beyond the comprehension of the average intelligent adult including most IRS agents, so people can keep their jobs. And it wouldn't eliminate all the jobs, but a good portion, while making the tax system understandable.

    I just cannot fathom that thinking.....
    if this much tax law is good for employment, then doubling that must be better, right?
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    Re: IRS Tax Advocate Calls for a Tax Code Overhaul

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    That is what you are saying. I know you may not like it, but the effect of simplifying the tax code would be to put many people out of work. You have to plan for that.
    Well I suggest it is worth pursuing. Even if it involved relocating everyone to a different busywork job, which you would have to work really hard at to screw it up that badly, it would still be a small net positive. “Oh no, this might involve having some sort of plan and some effort” is a very poor excuse for not moving on with progress.

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    Re: IRS Tax Advocate Calls for a Tax Code Overhaul

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    if this much tax law is good for employment, then doubling that must be better, right?
    I desperately hope this is sarcasm.....
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    Re: IRS Tax Advocate Calls for a Tax Code Overhaul

    Tax preparation and the majority of the IRS is nothing more than busy work made necessary by an overly complex tax code. I'd love to see the tax code replaced and understand that it would put a lot of people out of work, but if those people are essentially not doing anything productive than it is basically just wealth redistribution. We are paying millions of people to not produce a useful product or service. Since we are already paying them, change the code and pay them to go back to school to do something else. The savings would be delayed but in the end those people are all doing something else and we have a better tax system. My accountant handles my taxes and all of my business accounting needs. She would not be out of business, she would just lose a "product" line. You know, the production of the automobile put a lot of blacksmiths out of work, we somehow survived it.

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    Re: IRS Tax Advocate Calls for a Tax Code Overhaul

    I think we do need to reform the tax system:

    "Democrats say they want to raise as much as $1 trillion in new revenues through tax reform later this year to balance Republican demands to slash mandatory spending.

    Democratic leaders have had little time to craft a new position for their party since passing a tax deal Tuesday that will raise $620 billion in revenue over the next 10 years.

    The emerging consensus, however, is that the next installment of deficit reduction should reach $2 trillion and about half of it should come from higher taxes."

    Read more: Dems look for up to $1T in new revenues - The Hill
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    Re: IRS Tax Advocate Calls for a Tax Code Overhaul

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I think we do need to reform the tax system:

    "Democrats say they want to raise as much as $1 trillion in new revenues through tax reform later this year to balance Republican demands to slash mandatory spending.

    Democratic leaders have had little time to craft a new position for their party since passing a tax deal Tuesday that will raise $620 billion in revenue over the next 10 years.

    The emerging consensus, however, is that the next installment of deficit reduction should reach $2 trillion and about half of it should come from higher taxes."

    Read more: Dems look for up to $1T in new revenues - The Hill
    Half from higher taxes, eh? That assumes the other half will come from spending cuts, I suppose.

    They'll cut a trillion from the military (effectively gutting it), and then they will proceed to increase spending in social services and entitlements until we are, once again, borrowing over a trillion a year.

    That's about all we can expect from the Democrats.
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    Re: IRS Tax Advocate Calls for a Tax Code Overhaul

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Half from higher taxes, eh? That assumes the other half will come from spending cuts, I suppose.
    Yes, that is the deal, "The emerging consensus, however, is that the next installment of deficit reduction should reach $2 trillion and about half of it should come from higher taxes."

    They'll cut a trillion from the military (effectively gutting it), and then they will proceed to increase spending in social services and entitlements until we are, once again, borrowing over a trillion a year.
    Poppycock! We spend almost as much as the rest of the world combined on the military/industrial complex. We could cut our military spending by more than half and still be spending more than the next biggest military spender. Let' not forget the Constitution only specifies defense. It says nothing about footing the bill for being the world's cop. Simpson-Bowles fix for SS makes it viable for the long term, and the only viable plan to lower health care costs is UHC. So, let's get it on!

    That's about all we can expect from the Democrats.
    Its why we voted for them!
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    Re: IRS Tax Advocate Calls for a Tax Code Overhaul

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yes, that is the deal, "The emerging consensus, however, is that the next installment of deficit reduction should reach $2 trillion and about half of it should come from higher taxes."



    Poppycock! We spend almost as much as the rest of the world combined on the military/industrial complex. We could cut our military spending by more than half and still be spending more than the next biggest military spender. Let' not forget the Constitution only specifies defense. It says nothing about footing the bill for being the world's cop. Simpson-Bowles fix for SS makes it viable for the long term, and the only viable plan to lower health care costs is UHC. So, let's get it on!



    Its why we voted for them!
    LOL!!!

    I'm glad you agree with my summation of what we can expect from the Democrats, though I'm surprised you admitted you voted for the economic destruction of our nation. Cudos for your honesty.

    Anyway, we are not the rest of the world and any comparison between our defense spending and theirs is irrelevant. We DON'T determine our defense based on how much the rest of the world spends. We decide our own based on our own interests.

    I only wish you Democrats had an interest in our country's financial well being.
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