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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    These numbers look pretty balanced to me.GASP...could even be called a surplus.

    In 1999 Revenues were INPUT (1,827.5), OUTPUT outlays were (1,701.8)
    In 2000 Revenues were INPUT (2,025.2) OUTPUT outlays were (1,789.0)
    In 2001 Revenues were INPUT(1,991.1)OUTPUT outlays were (1,862.8)

    I bolded the pertinent parts.Maybe this time the winger fog will clear out and it'l enter the ole dome.I doubt it though.
    Yeah I got all that unfortunately for you those are BUDGET (belief) numbers. The actual numbers (FACTS) were posted previously and revealed there was not a single Clinton year that the debt either remained unchanged or went down...hence FAIL

    winger fog indeed...
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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    These numbers look pretty balanced to me.GASP...could even be called a surplus.

    In 1999 Revenues were INPUT (1,827.5), OUTPUT outlays were (1,701.8)
    In 2000 Revenues were INPUT (2,025.2) OUTPUT outlays were (1,789.0)
    In 2001 Revenues were INPUT(1,991.1)OUTPUT outlays were (1,862.8)

    I bolded the pertinent parts.Maybe this time the winger fog will clear out and it'l enter the ole dome.I doubt it though.
    Your numbers are foolish nonsense. The stuff of liberal lala ignorance. The National debt has gone up every year since Eisenhower. It went up every year of Clinton's terms. YOu can be dazzled by the smoke and mirrors all you want, but in the end, Clinton had no "balanced budgets", much less a surplus.

    I'm not knocking Clinton, as he and the GOP House worked together well, and got the deficit down to a near microscpic $19 B one year. I'm knocking you for not comprehending the simple bottom line. The government's own numbers show that I am correct, and know what I am speaking of, while we haven't a clue WTF you are boasting about here !

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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    We aren't referring to CBO projections. We're talking about their data
    My bad.

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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Yeah I got all that unfortunately for you those are BUDGET (belief) numbers. The actual numbers (FACTS) were posted previously and revealed there was not a single Clinton year that the debt either remained unchanged or went down...hence FAIL

    winger fog indeed...
    Take the year 2000.The federal surplus was $230 billion. Our gross national debt increased by $18 billion that year and BJ gos on CNN and announces that the federal budget surplus for fiscal year 2000 amounted to at least $230 billion???WTF happened.

    What happened is a quirk in the LAW that says that the Social Security and Medicare trust funds are included in the calculations of the budget surplus.I hope this clears some of the winger fog outta the ole dome.
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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    Take the year 2000.The federal surplus was $230 billion. Our gross national debt increased by $18 billion that year and BJ gos on CNN and announces that the federal budget surplus for fiscal year 2000 amounted to at least $230 billion???WTF happened.

    What happened is a quirk in the LAW that says that the Social Security and Medicare trust funds are included in the calculations of the budget surplus.I hope this clears some of the winger fog outta the ole dome.
    Its not a "quirk" in any Law. Its politics for the dumbasses. Its no different then "baseline budgeting", and all the other smoke and mirrors meant to befuddle the gullible. The only "surplus" in 2000 was the pretend one.

    Simple math from the easily readable bottom lines: No balanced budgets since Ike. No surplus since Ike.

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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Its not a "quirk" in any Law. Its politics for the dumbasses. Its no different then "baseline budgeting", and all the other smoke and mirrors meant to befuddle the gullible. The only "surplus" in 2000 was the pretend one.

    Simple math from the easily readable bottom lines: No balanced budgets since Ike. No surplus since Ike.
    Do think Ike would make it in today's republican party?
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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    Take the year 2000.The federal surplus was $230 billion. Our gross national debt increased by $18 billion that year and BJ go’s on CNN and announces that the federal budget surplus for fiscal year 2000 amounted to at least $230 billion???WTF happened.

    What happened is a quirk in the LAW that says that the Social Security and Medicare trust funds are included in the calculations of the budget surplus.I hope this clears some of the winger fog outta the ole dome.
    Ah, so now your failing is a 'quirk in the LAW'...

    fog in the dome indeed...

    keep runnin'
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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Brown is just doing what Democrats end up spending alot of their time at. Fixing bad economies and getting out of debt that Republicans always seem to leave behind wherever they go.. Imagine what they could do with our other problems if they didn't have to keep doing this?
    Sour Grapes must be at the top of the menu at your place.
    OK, so projecting this to the national budget, Bush may have left a mess, but it all began when Clinton, as well as BOTH the Democrats and Republicans gutted the Glass -Steagal Act. Bush just rode with the horse that was handed him, and did more. But our crashed economy did begin with Clinton.

    Now here is the problem I have. Sure, Bush was in office when the economy crashed, but it takes two to tango, and the Democrats and Republicans were perfect dance partners. What pisses me off are the dittoheads on both sides who only want to blame the other side for what happened.

    OK, so Brown fixed California's economy. Good. But let us not accuse ONLY Republicans of leaving messes. That is hyperpartisan douchebaggery at it's worst.
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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    Do think Ike would make it in today's republican party?
    I believe he would be seen as way too old to be elected.

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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Ah, so now your failing is a 'quirk in the LAW'...

    fog in the dome indeed...

    keep runnin'
    Your the one that runnin and attempting to deflect from the truth. Are you saying that the social security and Medicare trust funds are not required by law to be included in the calculations of the budget surpluses? And that trust fund accounting doesn't require that the surplus dough in the fund be segregated from the government's general account?Is this what you're sayen?
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