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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    Did you bother to click the Congressional Budget Office link that i provided?
    Why bother with facts when one has beliefs?
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    You believe what you want to believe. The numbers that both parties in Congress relies is good enough for me.And that would be the "Congressional Budget Office ".
    The CBO calculates numbers based upon data and assumptions provided to them by politicians

    Their conclusions are not infallible

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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    The CBO calculates numbers based upon data and assumptions provided to them by politicians

    Their conclusions are not infallible
    RIGHTWING FRAUD ALERT!

    CBO | our processes

    CBO draws on information from a wide variety of sources. A great deal of crucial information comes from the data collected and reported by the government’s statistical agencies. Such data include the national income and product accounts, surveys of labor market conditions and prices, the Statistics of Income database, the Current Population Survey, the Survey of Income and Program Participation, data on National Health Expenditures, and various health care surveys. CBO also uses data and other information from its analysts’ myriad contacts at federal agencies, state and local governments, and industry groups.

    In addition, CBO seeks input from outside experts, including professors, analysts at think tanks, private-sector experts, and employees at various government agencies. Some of those consultations occur during regular meetings with the agency’s Panel of Economic Advisers and Panel of Health Advisers; many more consultations occur on an informal, ongoing basis. Those consultations with outside experts complement the knowledge and insights of the talented analysts on the agency’s staff.


    NEXT DISCREDITED RIGHTWING MEME!

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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    RIGHTWING FRAUD ALERT!

    CBO | our processes

    CBO draws on information from a wide variety of sources. A great deal of crucial information comes from the data collected and reported by the government’s statistical agencies. Such data include the national income and product accounts, surveys of labor market conditions and prices, the Statistics of Income database, the Current Population Survey, the Survey of Income and Program Participation, data on National Health Expenditures, and various health care surveys. CBO also uses data and other information from its analysts’ myriad contacts at federal agencies, state and local governments, and industry groups.

    In addition, CBO seeks input from outside experts, including professors, analysts at think tanks, private-sector experts, and employees at various government agencies. Some of those consultations occur during regular meetings with the agency’s Panel of Economic Advisers and Panel of Health Advisers; many more consultations occur on an informal, ongoing basis. Those consultations with outside experts complement the knowledge and insights of the talented analysts on the agency’s staff.


    NEXT DISCREDITED RIGHTWING MEME!
    Your own link backs up my assertion.

    A great deal of crucial information comes from the data collected and reported by the government’s statistical agencies
    How Good Are the Government’s Deficit and Debt Projections and Should We Care?

    [W]hen the CBO constructs its baseline projections it cannot – unlike private-sector forecasters – anticipate future changes in fiscal or monetary policy that affect future economic growth, outlays, and revenues. Instead the CBO by law uses what is know as a “current services baseline.” That is, it must assume that existing laws that govern outlays and receipts will prevail over the projection horizon
    From the NYT's PAUL KRUGMAN

    http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/201...-a-cbo-report/

    What you need to realize is that the CBO is the servant of members of Congress, which means that if a Congressman asks it to analyze a plan under certain assumptions, it will do just that — no matter how unrealistic the assumptions may be. CBO will tell you what’s going on, but it will do so deadpan, doing nothing in terms of emphasis or placement to highlight the funny business.
    Have a nice day!

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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Your own link backs up my assertion.



    How Good Are the Government’s Deficit and Debt Projections and Should We Care?



    From the NYT's PAUL KRUGMAN

    How To Read A CBO Report - NYTimes.com



    Have a nice day!
    Hey look kids, he changed what he said and hoped nobody would notice.

    CBO gets information from a variety of sources including independent experts.

    You lose. But I'm glad you support Krugman now! He mocks rightwing memes about how SS is going broke.

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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Your own link backs up my assertion.



    How Good Are the Government’s Deficit and Debt Projections and Should We Care?



    From the NYT's PAUL KRUGMAN

    How To Read A CBO Report - NYTimes.com



    Have a nice day!
    More rightwing fraud

    "government’s statistical agencies" <> politicians
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    More rightwing fraud

    "government’s statistical agencies" <> politicians
    Exactly. This is how conservatives "argue". Words mean nothing to them. It's almost amusing to watch them prove that over and over again.

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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Why bother with facts when one has beliefs?
    Why bother indeed especially with the facts (actual historical data posted from Treasurydirect.gov) is less that beliefs (budgeted data from CBO). Standard left wing meme!...

    disposed of again...
    "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure" - 2006 Senator Obama...leadership failure indeed!

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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Why bother indeed especially with the facts (actual historical data posted from Treasurydirect.gov) is less that beliefs (budgeted data from CBO). Standard left wing meme!...

    disposed of again...
    Syntax is another deficiency conservative ideologues face.

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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Syntax is another deficiency conservative ideologues face.
    Seems preciseness and coherency is deficiency progressives lack…?
    "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure" - 2006 Senator Obama...leadership failure indeed!

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