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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    It must suck to be a conservative and see one of the states that your hero’s/provider of your favorite Kool-Aid make a comeback, especially when said state happens to be the eighth largest economy in the world.Eat your heart out.Jerry did it with spending cuts and a raise of taxes.Kinda like BO is going to do it and the National republican might as well change the name to the Whig party.
    How has CA made a comeback? This is hilarious. You have more faith in Jerry Brown than Morpheus had in Neo.

    He has proposed a budget based upon a multitude of assumptions, accounting gimmicks, and offsets, meaning he's not counting the inconvenient facts such as 500B in unfunded pension liabilities, existing massive debt, cities going bankrupt, and massive waste/fraud/abuse being committed in the Entitlement System.

    It's always the same with you Religious Fanatics that believe in Government like a God. A liberal politician makes a declaration/proclamation and you believe it, regardless of past failure. Nearly 25% of the population of the state lives in poverty. Each resident of the state represents about 10K in outstanding debt. About 1/3 of CA residents are on welfare. It has the highest sales tax and income tax in the entire country and was voted the worst state to do business in by Chief Executive Magazine

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    When Moonbeam pays down the debt and finds a way to cover all those unfunded liabilities let me know. Right now you're propping up a fairy tale and drinking some seriously strong kool-aid. The problem is Brown spiked the punch.

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    Umm, it's a budget

    Like every other budget in the world, it's based on projections of revenue and expenses.

    Some people here talk about the projections included in budgets as if there were such a thing as a budget that didn't rely on projections.
    Really?

    How have those Obama "budgets" turned out genius?

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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    He has proposed a budget based upon a multitude of assumptions, accounting gimmicks, and offsets
    Statements like this make me crack up over the obvious ignorance many people have about budgets. The statements show that the person doesn't even have the most basic understanding of what a budget is

    If they had that understanding, they'd know that a budget is nothing but a set of assumptions AKA projections. Criticizing a budget because it has assumptions is like criticizing a bird because it flies
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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Brown has been a helluva governor (unlike that boob Schwarzenegger who left the biggest state deficit in US history). The man is a consummate politician who fixed a huge problem. That's why conservatives hate him. Nice thing is, conservatives are almost extinct in California!
    If you truly think that, and it's not just the party cheerleader speaking, then you've never been to any of the rural areas of California (yes, they still exist).

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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

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    How has CA made a comeback? This is hilarious. You have more faith in Jerry Brown than Morpheus had in Neo.
    Are you saying that the PROPOSED BUDGET(and any budget is proposed) isn't the first time, since the 1990's that the state could propose a budget and see a surplus instead of massive deficits?
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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    If you truly think that, and it's not just the party cheerleader speaking, then you've never been to any of the rural areas of California (yes, they still exist).
    They're getting squeezed out. I know, I'm from the Central Valley. There are a few republican strongholds, but they're small and getting smaller. They're already so small, their influence on Sacramento is heavily diminished. The Democrats completely control the legislature, and of course Brown is the Governor. It's not getting any better for the Republicans in the future.
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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    They're getting squeezed out. I know, I'm from the Central Valley. There are a few republican strongholds, but they're small and getting smaller. They're already so small, their influence on Sacramento is heavily diminished. The Democrats completely control the legislature, and of course Brown is the Governor. It's not getting any better for the Republicans in the future.
    Well, I admit, so many I've known in the state no longer call themselves republicans. Heck I changed my party affiliation years ago. They're now all independents or libertarians, but they're still conservative, and they won't leave the state. The old neighborhoods, the suburbs of Sacto, you'll find quite a few conservatiives hiding there. They're disgusted with what's happening to the state, but they won't leave.

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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

    Every state has it's pockets of poverty

    Every single one of them
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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Every state has it's pockets of poverty

    Every single one of them
    and California has areas that compare with Appalachia. It has little farming communities where the unemployment rate approaches 50% in the off season. It's not all Malibu and Santa Barbara.

    When I graduated from Chico State College (now CSU Chico) with an MA in 1973, there was no tuition. I paid a flat fee of $50 for the year, that was it. State sales tax was 5%. State income taxes were not withheld, as the amount didn't justify it. The school system was the best in the nation, and its teachers among the highest paid. California had no trouble balancing its budget then.

    What happened to this state, I keep asking myself. It still has a vibrant economy, still is the fruit basket of the country, still has its share of millionaires.

    I think a lot of the causes of the problems reside in Sacramento. What do you think?
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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    and California has areas that compare with Appalachia. It has little farming communities where the unemployment rate approaches 50% in the off season. It's not all Malibu and Santa Barbara.

    When I graduated from Chico State College (now CSU Chico) with an MA in 1973, there was no tuition. I paid a flat fee of $50 for the year, that was it. State sales tax was 5%. State income taxes were not withheld, as the amount didn't justify it. The school system was the best in the nation, and its teachers among the highest paid. California had no trouble balancing its budget then.

    What happened to this state, I keep asking myself. It still has a vibrant economy, still is the fruit basket of the country, still has its share of millionaires.

    I think a lot of the causes of the problems reside in Sacramento. What do you think?
    And so does TX, AL, and on and on.. Every state does.

    And of course politics has a lot to do with poverty. That's true of every state
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    Re: Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    and California has areas that compare with Appalachia. It has little farming communities where the unemployment rate approaches 50% in the off season. It's not all Malibu and Santa Barbara.

    When I graduated from Chico State College (now CSU Chico) with an MA in 1973, there was no tuition. I paid a flat fee of $50 for the year, that was it. State sales tax was 5%. State income taxes were not withheld, as the amount didn't justify it. The school system was the best in the nation, and its teachers among the highest paid. California had no trouble balancing its budget then.

    What happened to this state, I keep asking myself. It still has a vibrant economy, still is the fruit basket of the country, still has its share of millionaires.

    I think a lot of the causes of the problems reside in Sacramento. What do you think?
    The problem with state politics is when state politicians have national ambitions that exceeds their desire to their current state jobs. Then they stick their finger in the air to find which way it's blowing and then try to emulate whatever is going on at the federal level in their party rather than taking stock in their own job and the duties thereof.
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