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    Re: Biden, NRA Clash over New Gun Control Proposals......

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    The Bush White House was most adept at using weapons grade propaganda on the citizens of the United States to gain public approval to needless invade Iraq and cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of people and commit the American taxpayer to fund astronomical expenditures. It could not have happened if the public had not been duped by mass media and bought the lies hook, line, and sinker. The Bush White House was absolutely masterful at doing that. Goebbels would have been in awe. I'm serious.
    Don't forget the contribution of those liberal legislators who were for the action before they were against it.
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    Re: Biden, NRA Clash over New Gun Control Proposals......

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    And then comes Hillary. You know this right?
    Unless she "feints" the wrong direction again. The Clintons had a long and painful divorce from the Dem party in 2008 and the party now realizes they made a huge mistake, but do you really think they want to return to more scandal and failure?
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    Re: Biden, NRA Clash over New Gun Control Proposals......

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Unless she "feints" the wrong direction again. The Clintons had a long and painful divorce from the Dem party in 2008 and the party now realizes they made a huge mistake, but do you really think they want to return to more scandal and failure?
    After Bills speech at the Convention you still think that is true?
    It's the Republicans that made the mistake with the Clintons. The "embraced" Bill for his "bipartisanship" and it bit them on the ass.

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    Re: Biden, NRA Clash over New Gun Control Proposals......

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Not after the piss poor job she has done as the SOS.....Do you actually think after Benghazi that she will be able run around smiling telling the American people about How much she cares?
    That shows what you know. Someday you guys will realize how far out in right field you are and it will be a revelation. Until then you will walk around aimlessly in the fog. Don't trip and fall.
    A decision by Hillary Clinton to run for president in 2016 would be welcomed by most Americans, according to a Washington Post/ABC poll released Wednesday.

    As she prepares to step down as secretary of state, Clinton has a lifetime high favorability rating of 66 percent, according to the Post/ABC poll, with less than a third of respondents holding unfavorable views. Two-thirds of Americans approve of her job performance in the Obama administration.

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    Re: Biden, NRA Clash over New Gun Control Proposals......

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    After Bills speech at the Convention you still think that is true?
    It's the Republicans that made the mistake with the Clintons. The "embraced" Bill for his "bipartisanship" and it bit them on the ass.
    Does that mean you would prefer the scandal of the Clintons over the incompetence of Obama? You really can't find any better candidates?
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    Re: Biden, NRA Clash over New Gun Control Proposals......

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Does that mean you would prefer the scandal of the Clintons over the incompetence of Obama? You really can't find any better candidates?
    I prefer competance over incompetance which is all the other side has to offer. Never again.

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    Re: Biden, NRA Clash over New Gun Control Proposals......

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    That shows what you know. Someday you guys will realize how far out in right field you are and it will be a revelation. Until then you will walk around aimlessly in the fog. Don't trip and fall.
    Thats registered voters. But that's neither here nor there now. First she has to deal with her screw up with Libya. Course I didn't see you drop in the thread I had up today with Benghazi. But you do know what they say.

    To be aware is to be alive. Hopefully Clinton will be focused on those parts that those 3 different committees have all agreed upon. Because with that incompetence on such a major scale. The naturally human tendency is to cover up.

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    Re: Biden, NRA Clash over New Gun Control Proposals......

    the NRA at itss finest protecting thier bosses and averting ANY attempt to make life safer. Instead proposing that every person in the country own a gun and opposing even the smallest attempt to make sure they stay out of the hands of those who should not have them (psychological testing aka BEST)
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    Re: Biden, NRA Clash over New Gun Control Proposals......

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah.....I kinda thought so to.
    No, you probably didn't think.

    It's simply not worth the effort trying to explain it to you. The point with Bush is that a terrible and very successful precedent was established and is well documented. It will be refined and used again and again by future presidents and it will often subvert or even circumvent the law and the Constitution. I am fairly certain we are seeing that now regarding the media driven hysteria over gun control.

    If the government wants your guns they cannot possibly seize them without public support and then with public support they will accomplish gun seizure incrementally. It is completely and entirely possible for the government to create public support that would enable the federal government to achieve its objective. I believe that effort is already in place and working.

    You seem hell bent to make the use of weapons grade propaganda on the citizens of the United States a partisan issue. It most certainly is not.










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    Re: Biden, NRA Clash over New Gun Control Proposals......

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Don't forget the contribution of those liberal legislators who were for the action before they were against it.
    Exactly! The groundswell of public support, created through the use of propaganda, by the Bush administration, was overwhelming. Congress could not ignore it, but many in Congress also suspected that the public was being shucked and jived. And of course, we now know that an intricate and well worked system of deception was in fact in place and was used by the Bush administration. The beauty of it is that it was and is largely hidden in plain sight. Anyone can read and study and learn about it. Few do or will.










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