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Why is the military wanting to change something that has been established and accepted for years and was NEVER a problem?

Because it is the law! It is on federal property! Plus we dont live in the past! I think that about covers it.
 
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The simple solution is if these "spouses clubs" are so butt hurt about it, they can move their happy arses off the base.

Where is the 'equality' in that?
 
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Because it is the law! It is on federal property! Plus we dont live in the past! I think that about covers it.

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Listen just because you think we should live in the past, and you have issues with same sex couple recieving equal treatment, becuase you say why change because years and years an years is simply pointless. Put up a logical argument please?
 
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Where is the 'equality' in that?

The equality is you follow the same rules as all the clubs on the base or you leave the base. Quite simple, if you don't want to be equal, you don't have a spot on the base. I'm just giving them an "out" if the clubs don't want to be equal.
 
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Listen just because you think we should live in the past, and you have issues with same sex couple recieving equal treatment, becuase you say why change because years and years an years is simply pointless. Put up a logical argument please?

It is immoral.
 
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I actually knew and know and spoke to blacks who lived during the 50's and 60's in the urban cities of the South who were forbidden from riding in the front of a bus or where they could sit when eating a sandwich. I listen to them.

But I don't listen to white leftist agitators, the majority who never lived in the South back during the era of the Jim Crow Laws always rubbing salt into the wounds and thinking they are the spoke holes for all black Americans.

You think equality and treating everyone with respect is "rubbing salt into wounds"?

I don't care about your era. In my era people of all types get along just fine without this bs that comes from your era. The only time I hear this crap or there is a problem is when your era, when people of your era, act like jackasses because you have a problem with everything. Advancement of women, minorities, foreigners, gays, everything different than your traditional upbringing or seen as unfamiliar is some kind of sin. You'd think after all these years you'd finally figure it out that you are the problem. That change hurts your brain and you can't handle it. I really get tired of this old time nonsense all over this forum.
 
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The equality is you follow the same rules as all the clubs on the base or you leave the base. Quite simple, if you don't want to be equal, you don't have a spot on the base. I'm just giving them an "out" if the clubs don't want to be equal.

I agree, all the clubs on base should follow the base rules. The Commandant did not make this rule change to enforce "equality" but to avoid the pissing and moaning in the press of the gay contingent. Regardless, you are correct in that on base clubs should follow on base rules.
 
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It is immoral.

(Using the Christian morality scale) It's immoral to get drunk, it's immoral to have sex before marriage, it's immoral to take the lord's name in vein. Guess what though, ALL THOSE ARE LEGAL AND YOU CAN DO IT ON A BASE. Now, got it?
 
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Nice try, but yet another busted meme. I know memes are easy and they save having to think for the mentally lazy, but you really don't need to rely upon them as you seem to. Gay marriage doesn't equate to constitutional equal rights.

The last resort of the bigot, the constitution. How about doing what is right.
 
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The last resort of the bigot, the constitution. How about doing what is right.

Wow, let us know when you're done with that elementary school education and we can begin discussing higher concepts with you. :roll:
 
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The equality is you follow the same rules as all the clubs on the base or you leave the base. Quite simple, if you don't want to be equal, you don't have a spot on the base. I'm just giving them an "out" if the clubs don't want to be equal.

So why don't the SS spouses 'take a walk'? Why make the majority bow to your whims?
 
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It is immoral.

What is immoral about it? Please let you bigorty shine! Do you not live in a country where all are created equal, and where the laws apply to everyone? Plus all people recieve those same rights? Or is it just those that believe what you believe.
 
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So why don't the SS spouses 'take a walk'? Why make the majority bow to your whims?


Why do you assume the majority of spouses in the Spouse clubs want them to "take a walk"?

The only case that I know of that was an issue was at Ft. Bragg and that was because the by-laws required spouses to have Dependent ID cards and prior to the overturning of DOMA, same-sex spouses couldn't get ID cards. Now they can. Problem solved.


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(Using the Christian morality scale) It's immoral to get drunk, it's immoral to have sex before marriage, it's immoral to take the lord's name in vein. Guess what though, ALL THOSE ARE LEGAL AND YOU CAN DO IT ON A BASE. Now, got it?

It is also immoral to murder, and that is the law as well, hmmmmmmm.
 
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Are you really saying the blacks liked sitting in the back of the bus?

Today from what I observe in Los Angeles County, they do.

What it comes down to, nobody likes being told what they can and can not do. That's what it's all about.

And that's why I have a problem with liberals and those socialist who hide behind the liberal or progressive labels where they say, "Do as I say, not as I do."
 
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What is immoral about it? Please let you bigorty shine! Do you not live in a country where all are created equal, and where the laws apply to everyone? Plus all people recieve those same rights? Or is it just those that believe what you believe.

Look, I don't agree with the immorality angle any more than I believe gay marriage has **** all to do with equal rights. However, your argument depends upon a creator, do you really wish to travel that debate path?
 
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Why do you assume the majority of spouses in the Spouse clubs want them to "take a walk"?

The only case that I know of that was an issue was at Ft. Bragg and that was because the by-laws required spouses to have Dependent ID cards and prior to the overturning of DOMA, same-sex spouses couldn't get ID cards. Now they can. Problem solved.


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My point is this is ALWAYS about what the minority wants... never about the opinion of the majority.

These protected class/group laws are going to cause major issues in the future. It's happened elsewhere and it will happen here.
 
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So why don't the SS spouses 'take a walk'? Why make the majority bow to your whims?

Because the SS spouses are part of the whole military family now. Why would you want to exclude military family? What you are wanting is the same as saying it's ok to have a white only club on base.
 
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Wow, let us know when you're done with that elementary school education and we can begin discussing higher concepts with you. :roll:

I concur.
 
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It is also immoral to murder, and that is the law as well, hmmmmmmm.

My point being that just because something is what YOU consider immoral doesn't mean it should be excluded from the base. Immorality is not the reason something IS or is NOT allowed on a base.
 
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Today from what I observe in Los Angeles County, they do.

What it comes down to, nobody likes being told what they can and can not do. That's what it's all about.

And that's why I have a problem with liberals and those socialist who hide behind the liberal or progressive labels where they say, "Do as I say, not as I do."

So are you ok with a white only club on base? Because the military says you can't have that and BOTH conservatives and liberals agree with the military on that.
 
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more discrimination bites the dust, one step at a time equal rights is winning and will prevail.

Good job Marines! :2usflag:

That's called forcing people.

That's called fascism and authoritarianism.....

Yet you're bewildered that patriots like myself label people like you fascists, authoritarians or totalitarians -- yet you sit here proud of forcing people to do something they may not want to do????

You do realize this is the equivalent of shoving homosexuality down peoples throats?
 
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Because the SS spouses are part of the whole military family now. Why would you want to exclude military family? What you are wanting is the same as saying it's ok to have a white only club on base.

Leftists don't give a rat's ass about the military. (mostly hate them) so that won't fly. If it weren't for the weasels in the SCOTUS and the Gay lobby, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

And NO it's not the same as racial equality.
 
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My point being that just because something is what YOU consider immoral doesn't mean it should be excluded from the base. Immorality is not the reason something IS or is NOT allowed on a base.

Agreed. Those decisions are made with political considerations in mind and an eye towards unit cohesion.
 
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